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Re: Italian football

Postby Fénix » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:50 pm

From what I've just seen, Zvonimir Boban and Paolo Maldini are set to return to AC Milan management. Ivan Gazidis will try to return them after he was the one who fired them. :D

Serie A is really weird that it cannot be more weird in the last 10 years.
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:18 pm

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Re: Italian football

Postby Fénix » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:27 pm

ramsej84 wrote:ibra positive for covid -19

Excuse me Ramsej????? It's COVID-19 positive for Zlatan. 8)
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Re: Italian football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:07 pm

Juve never change :roll:

Napoli are not travelling to the game vs Juve tonight as health authorities ordered self-isolation for everyone in close contact with Zielinski (practically the entire squad). Meanwhile the FA wants the game to go ahead with only Juve showing up, handing them a free three points in a top of the table clash.
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:58 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Juve never change :roll:

Napoli are not travelling to the game vs Juve tonight as health authorities ordered self-isolation for everyone in close contact with Zielinski (practically the entire squad). Meanwhile the FA wants the game to go ahead with only Juve showing up, handing them a free three points in a top of the table clash.
CO CO ME MAI CO CO ME MAI LA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE NON LA VINCERETE MAI...

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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:46 pm

you guys always miss the point :D
and bullshit around.

It's Napoli decision to not travel.

The truth? they're missing Insigne,Zielinsky and Elmas and wanted to postphone the game.

Juventus by rules has to be on the field else it's like Napoli! getting punished for it.

Do you seriously think it's our fault even now lol??
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Re: Italian football

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:49 pm

Valerio wrote:you guys always miss the point :D
and bullshit around.

It's Napoli decision to not travel.

The truth? they're missing Insigne,Zielinsky and Elmas and wanted to postphone the game.

Juventus by rules has to be on the field else it's like Napoli! getting punished for it.

Do you seriously think it's our fault even now lol??

I read it's an order by their local health authority actually.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:33 pm

MUTU wrote:
Valerio wrote:you guys always miss the point :D
and bullshit around.

It's Napoli decision to not travel.

The truth? they're missing Insigne,Zielinsky and Elmas and wanted to postphone the game.

Juventus by rules has to be on the field else it's like Napoli! getting punished for it.

Do you seriously think it's our fault even now lol??

I read it's an order by their local health authority actually.

because they didn't follow the rules agreed between teams and health association
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:34 pm

Agnelli: "Il Napoli voleva il rinvio ma il protocollo è chiaro. La Juve rispetta i regolamenti"

Il presidente bianconero: "De Laurentiis mi ha chiesto di rinviare la partita, io gli ho risposto che ci sono dei regolamenti da rispettare. Il 3-0 a tavolino? Preferisco vincere sul campo"



Andrea Agnelli, presidente della Juventus, ha parlato ai microfoni di Sky Sport del caso Juventus-Napoli. "Io non è che debba farmi un'idea o no della situazione - ha detto -. Ciò che è indispensabile è fare chiarezza: abbiamo dei protocolli che sono molto chiari, ed è prevedibile che sarebbe successo di avere un caso di positività al Covid. Prima o poi capita a tutti. A quel punto ci si affida al protocollo e si sa cosa bisogna fare. Si va in isolamento fiduciario in una struttura concordata con l'Asl e così facendo ci si può allenare e disputare la partita. C'è molta chiarezza, si sa cosa succede, è quello che abbiamo fatto anche noi ieri quando due persone sono risultate positive. Ci siamo isolati nella nostra struttura, il nostro centro tecnico. Non è una questione di sistema calcio, il protocollo è stato studiato dalla Federazione con il Governo, ovvio che è un regolamento "vivo", con i giorni scopriamo sfaccettature che non erano state prese in considerazione, le casistiche volta per volta verranno individuate e il documento perfezionato. E' evidente che la priorità è la tutela della salute pubblica, in questo caso abbiamo un protocollo che ci permette di svolgere il nostro mestiere. L'importante è avere sempre quello spirito di lealtà sportiva che sta alla base di tutto".

IL MESSAGGIO — Contatti con De Laurentiis? "Ci siamo mandati un messaggio, mi ha scritto - ha detto Agnelli -. Io ho risposto che la Juventus si attiene ai regolamenti. Lui voleva rimandare la partita, una richiesta che può essere legittima. Ma in tutte le industrie ci sono i regolamenti e a quelli ci si deve attenere. Se non ci atteniamo ai regolamenti è il primo errore che commettiamo non da sportivi, ma da cittadini. Come ci saremmo comportati noi a parti invertite? Io sarei partito per Napoli, ma l’Asl non avrebbe emesso quel comunicato. L’Asl non interviene se il protocollo è osservato, se non lo osservo interviene l’Asl. La Asl dipende dal ministero della Sanità, il cortocircuito è interno, non esterno. Il protocollo mi sembra molto ben fatto, ma mi rimetto alle autorità competenti, nella consapevolezza che la salute pubblica viene prima di tutto. Ma se vogliamo portare a termine le manifestazioni sportive, non solo il campionato di calcio, bisognerà saper gestire i casi e le positività che possono essere individuate vista la frequenza dei controlli a cui siamo sottoposti". E alla fine ha precisato: "Il 3-0 a tavolino? Io preferisco vincere sul campo. Sempre".

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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:22 pm

It is so nice to on the table especially on a rival ...
I heard that if the authorities decide so they are gonna give juve a 4-0 win instead of the usual 3.
The 4th being a penalty :twisted:
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:19 pm

ramsej84 wrote:It is so nice to on the table especially on a rival ...
I heard that if the authorities decide so they are gonna give juve a 4-0 win instead of the usual 3.
The 4th being a penalty :twisted:

nope just 3-0 and -1 point for Napoli.

But seriously anyone blaming Juve for Napoli not showing up is madness.

Napoli didn't follow the protocal which Juve did.
Aka when they found out that Zielinsky was potisive to Covid19 they had to go in a light quarantine as protocol says.
Well they didn't and let everyone go sleep in their homes.
Then they went to ASL and ask what to do. Fully knowing what it meant.
Anyway Asl can suggest people to stay home to avoid the risk of spreading the virus but they can't stop Napoli Fc from traveling for a game.
You just need to see the other games.
Milan had Ibrahimovic and Duarte positive to Covid19 folowed protocol and played normally.

So why Milan,Genoa and the other can but Napoli won't? Pooor little nipples =( everyone but them!

so c'mon let's be real and not anti-juve for once. We all know this happened for a reason and Napoli is behind it.
Now trying to pass as the poor victims of the system instead
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:58 pm

But was not the Geno game postponed?
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Juve should be gentlemen enough and ask for the game to be postponed as this is a game between the top two teams...
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:08 am

ramsej84 wrote:But was not the Geno game postponed?
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Juve should be gentlemen enough and ask for the game to be postponed as this is a game between the top two teams...

Genoa game was postponed cause from new protocol (signed by Napoli as well few days ago) it says that if you have over 10 positive cases you could ask ONCE to postpone the game.
Well genoa has TWENTY players positive to covid19. So unless they sent primavera they had no players to Field.
Do you really wanna compare it to Napoli having Zielinsky and Elmas out for Covid?

I get the anti-Juve thing but srsly everything has a limit.

And why should we give a helping hand to Napoli?
Plus they did everything on their own.
Cause if they followed the rules signed by everything they would have played the game missing 2 players for Covid and one for Injury.
That's it.
And I don't believe, not even for a second, that if Juve had 2-3 cases of Covid positive players they would have asked to postpone and be "gentlemen"
C'mon see what tricks they pulled to not play.
Now let's see if they'll win and we'll have to play when they decide they can and willing to do.
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Re: Italian football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:26 am

ramsej84 wrote:But was not the Geno game postponed?
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Juve should be gentlemen enough and ask for the game to be postponed as this is a game between the top two teams...
This.

I’ve heard Juve fans saying Napoli are acting childish but I can’t see how Juve are any better. They’re completely ignoring the reality of a pandemic, health and safety etc. and simply stomping their feet saying “but this is what the rules say!”

It may well be that Napoli did not act appropriately, but Juve have shown a complete disregard for sportsmanship and love of the game, imo, and the Lega have acted directly in favour of Juve’s interests rather than postpone the game as is logical for health reasons. Then, if Napoli ended up like this through negligence, they can suffer a point penalty, no problem. However Juve should not be rewarded because of the actions of others. The game should be played.
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Re: Italian football

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:49 pm

Valerio has explained it clearly and we have the same protocol in Spain

If you have more than 10 positives, you can request the game to be postponed. And you can do it only once in the entire season.

Napoli had way less than 10 positives so they tried to be clever and it backfired. Juventus did absolutely nothing wrong.



A very different scenario would have been Lega/Serie A postponing the game and then Juve demanding those 3 points. And even that would have been fair because that's what the protocol says.
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