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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:04 am

We have the third highest wages in Europe after Real and Barcellona and our team is shitty.
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Re: Italian football

Postby MUTU » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:25 am

Valerio wrote:We have the third highest wages in Europe after Real and Barcellona and our team is shitty.

Are you talking net or gross? I doubt you are 3rd highest in gross given the tax advantages in Italy
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Re: Italian football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:55 am

MUTU wrote:You know, you don't like Ronaldo but I have no doubt we would have won the CL last season had we bought him, and be heavy favourites to win it this season with him in. Imagine a 4-1-2-1-2 with Ronaldo and Lewandowski, and Mueller behind them feeding them balls.
We wouldn’t have won it, not with Kovac.

We would have in any other season since 2013 though.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Fénix » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:13 pm

Valerio wrote:
r10 wrote:
Valerio wrote:Now it's crucial to see off Higuain and Khedira.
Actually why some fans (i.e. like you) are against Higuain?

because you don't watch Juventus play and you don't notice how he became an ex-player since 1-2years.
Fat,lazy and simply not caring.
He didn't want to return to stay in Argentina and even before the game with Lyon he got himself a plane ticket for Argentina the day after the game.
Not knowing if we pass or not.

A lazy and super expensive cunt.
He is on 15m+bonus/year
Khedira? broken since 2years and he is on 12m/year

Wonder why we wanna get rid of useless trash costing us 27m/year in wages and what's not :(

At least you know you won't buy Napoli players or hire their coaches anytime soon.

Even Maurizio Sarri was a big mistake last summer. :D
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Re: Italian football

Postby #12 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:52 pm

Valerio wrote:We have the third highest wages in Europe after Real and Barcellona and our team is shitty.
So are theirs...
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Re: Italian football

Postby #12 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:53 pm

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MUTU wrote:You know, you don't like Ronaldo but I have no doubt we would have won the CL last season had we bought him, and be heavy favourites to win it this season with him in. Imagine a 4-1-2-1-2 with Ronaldo and Lewandowski, and Mueller behind them feeding them balls.
We wouldn’t have won it, not with Kovac.

We would have in any other season since 2013 though.
Not with Ancelotti either...
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:04 pm

Only with Guardiola...

Shame that we missed it with

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Re: Italian football

Postby #12 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:11 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Only with Guardiola...

Shame that we missed it with

Lahm
Basti
Kroos
Lewa
Mueller
Hummels
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Alaba
Benatia

And Co
Hummels never played under Guardiola and who the fuck is Benatia?

The rest in tgat list won it BTW... All with us...
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Re: Italian football

Postby r10 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:57 pm

Valerio wrote:because you don't watch Juventus play
I tried to (those fixtures when Szczęsny was in goal) but Juve was absolutely unwatchable under Allegri (before CR or after CR). But without Higuain Juve wouldn't win scudetto, Napoli would, the same with UCL quali, he paid for himself.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:21 pm

MUTU wrote:
Valerio wrote:We have the third highest wages in Europe after Real and Barcellona and our team is shitty.

Are you talking net or gross? I doubt you are 3rd highest in gross given the tax advantages in Italy

dude man you don't even know how it works "the tax advanteges"

First it started only for players brought from outside Italy starting Jannuary 2020
So no Ronaldo wages are paid in full. Meaning Ronaldo get a 31m NET wages and Juventus yearly pay 86m from the depreciation + gross wages
so 28m (depreciation) + 58m (Ronaldo's gross wage)

Not even De Ligt will get a reduction on taxes ONLY PLAYERS BOUGHT AFTER 01/01/2020

This tax thing will only apply for players brought from outside of Italy so if we buy Zaniolo and pay him 15m/year we'll pay full price for him.

Just google it about highest paying teams in Europe
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Re: Italian football

Postby MUTU » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:45 pm

What you don't understand with Ronaldo is that he is saving up so much money because he is paying 100k on his foreign income, which is several millions a year. Also the highest tax rate is still lower than Germany, and that's excluding the church tax.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm

MUTU wrote:What you don't understand with Ronaldo is that he is saving up so much money because he is paying 100k on his foreign income, which is several millions a year. Also the highest tax rate is still lower than Germany, and that's excluding the church tax.

yes but that's something personal this doesn't affect juventus wages at all
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Re: Italian football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm

#12 wrote:
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MUTU wrote:You know, you don't like Ronaldo but I have no doubt we would have won the CL last season had we bought him, and be heavy favourites to win it this season with him in. Imagine a 4-1-2-1-2 with Ronaldo and Lewandowski, and Mueller behind them feeding them balls.
We wouldn’t have won it, not with Kovac.

We would have in any other season since 2013 though.
Not with Ancelotti either...
I see where you’re coming from but I disagree. We were shit under Ancelotti but he actually did well in the CL and it took a lot of bias for the eventual champions to eventually eliminate him.
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Re: Italian football

Postby #12 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:44 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
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FCBayernMunchen wrote:[quote="MUTU"]You know, you don't like Ronaldo but I have no doubt we would have won the CL last season had we bought him, and be heavy favourites to win it this season with him in. Imagine a 4-1-2-1-2 with Ronaldo and Lewandowski, and Mueller behind them feeding them balls.
We wouldn’t have won it, not with Kovac.

We would have in any other season since 2013 though.
Not with Ancelotti either...
I see where you’re coming from but I disagree. We were shit under Ancelotti but he actually did well in the CL and it took a lot of bias for the eventual champions to eventually eliminate him.[/quote]I disagree... We produced nothing in those matches albeit were quite stable defensively... Nonetheless the claim stands (with the exception for this year): you want to win this competition? Start by winning your home games!
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:03 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
#12 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:[quote="MUTU"]You know, you don't like Ronaldo but I have no doubt we would have won the CL last season had we bought him, and be heavy favourites to win it this season with him in. Imagine a 4-1-2-1-2 with Ronaldo and Lewandowski, and Mueller behind them feeding them balls.
We wouldn’t have won it, not with Kovac.

We would have in any other season since 2013 though.
Not with Ancelotti either...
I see where you’re coming from but I disagree. We were shit under Ancelotti but he actually did well in the CL and it took a lot of bias for the eventual champions to eventually eliminate him.[/quote]Ancelotti is the UCL expert. We brought him just for that.
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