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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:42 pm

https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/201 ... no-ronaldo

IT'S DONE!

RONALDO TO JUVENTUS!

Official from Real Madrid saying he is off to Juventus


reported fee of 105m to Real , 25m to Mendes and 60m/year to Ronaldo!!!

Oh my God! Oh my God! I didn't want to believe it till I saw something official!!!!!!
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Re: Italian football

Postby Dumbledore7 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:55 pm

Holy shit, well done Juventus.
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:15 pm

Valerio wrote:https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/07/carta-de-cristiano-ronaldo

IT'S DONE!

RONALDO TO JUVENTUS!

Official from Real Madrid saying he is off to Juventus


reported fee of 105m to Real , 25m to Mendes and 60m/year to Ronaldo!!!

Oh my God! Oh my God! I didn't want to believe it till I saw something official!!!!!!


More to do for the assistant refs in italy and also for the guys at the var centre :)
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Re: Italian football

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:31 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:Holy shit, well done Juventus.
Not so well done actually. 100mn for a player who is already in decline is not good business. At 30 maybe, but at 33 it's unlikely to be a good return on investment.

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Re: Italian football

Postby Dumbledore7 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:51 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
Dumbledore7 wrote:Holy shit, well done Juventus.
Not so well done actually. 100mn for a player who is already in decline is not good business. At 30 maybe, but at 33 it's unlikely to be a good return on investment.

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That's not counting sponsorship, brand, and all that kind of stuff. Also not counting resale value, which will still be in the tens of millions. The fee will repay itself even if Ronaldo gets injured the whole season.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:32 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
Dumbledore7 wrote:Holy shit, well done Juventus.
Not so well done actually. 100mn for a player who is already in decline is not good business. At 30 maybe, but at 33 it's unlikely to be a good return on investment.

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That's not counting sponsorship, brand, and all that kind of stuff. Also not counting resale value, which will still be in the tens of millions. The fee will repay itself even if Ronaldo gets injured the whole season.

well those who invested in the juventus market brand already got quite a bit seeing how Juventus brand gained over 200m in increased value.
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:31 pm

This.
https://www.timesofmalta.com/mobile/art ... ium=widget

Shame on them...

The workers are asked to be patient and to make sacrifices and then this happens

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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 am

ramsej84 wrote:This.
https://www.timesofmalta.com/mobile/art ... ium=widget

Shame on them...

The workers are asked to be patient and to make sacrifices and then this happens

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hahah you don't know the gist of this story ramsej!
First of all they're a small minority not the whole factory.
Then they cry for a wage increase that wouldn't have been given regardless Ronaldo or not.
Thirdly they're in "cassaintegrazione" since years those bastards.
Know what cassaintegrazione is? Basically Italy pay Fiat to keep them on a reduced wage.
Meanwhile they don't work at all!
Basically it's charity. Else if it was for Fiat they would have closed down years ago.
So Italian govt to avoid 7000peoples fired without work prefere to pay them for doing nothing.
Those mongrels get 800-1000euro per month for not working.
And do you know why they're ok with it? because they can find another job to integrate the 800-1000euro they get for doing nothing.
So don't you find it silly for them to ask for a paycheck increase?
BASICALLY THEY WANT MORE MONEY WITHOUT WORKING AT ALL!!!!!
those leechs I detest them.

https://video.virgilio.it/guarda-video/ ... f=virgilio
Also take a note of "how they speak" and WHERE they are.

Pomigliano d'Arco è un comune italiano di 39 753 abitanti della città metropolitana di Napoli in Campania.

Neaples, Campania. Ronaldo. Need to say more?
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Re: Italian football

Postby bbenno » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:16 am

Valerio wrote:https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/07/carta-de-cristiano-ronaldo

IT'S DONE!

RONALDO TO JUVENTUS!

Official from Real Madrid saying he is off to Juventus


reported fee of 105m to Real , 25m to Mendes and 60m/year to Ronaldo!!!

Oh my God! Oh my God! I didn't want to believe it till I saw something official!!!!!!


If hes really earning 60m a year at Juve, then this is hardly the brilliant business deal some make it out to be.
Which club will pay a significant fee for him when hes set to leave Juve in 3-4years time?
How Juve can finance this type of deal is mind boggling to me...
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:31 am

Valerio wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:This.
https://www.timesofmalta.com/mobile/art ... ium=widget

Shame on them...

The workers are asked to be patient and to make sacrifices and then this happens

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hahah you don't know the gist of this story ramsej!
First of all they're a small minority not the whole factory.
Then they cry for a wage increase that wouldn't have been given regardless Ronaldo or not.
Thirdly they're in "cassaintegrazione" since years those bastards.
Know what cassaintegrazione is? Basically Italy pay Fiat to keep them on a reduced wage.
Meanwhile they don't work at all!
Basically it's charity. Else if it was for Fiat they would have closed down years ago.
So Italian govt to avoid 7000peoples fired without work prefere to pay them for doing nothing.
Those mongrels get 800-1000euro per month for not working.
And do you know why they're ok with it? because they can find another job to integrate the 800-1000euro they get for doing nothing.
So don't you find it silly for them to ask for a paycheck increase?
BASICALLY THEY WANT MORE MONEY WITHOUT WORKING AT ALL!!!!!
those leechs I detest them.

https://video.virgilio.it/guarda-video/ ... f=virgilio
Also take a note of "how they speak" and WHERE they are.

Pomigliano d'Arco è un comune italiano di 39 753 abitanti della città metropolitana di Napoli in Campania.

Neaples, Campania. Ronaldo. Need to say more?
You won, you are right.


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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:58 am

bbenno wrote:
Valerio wrote:https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/07/carta-de-cristiano-ronaldo

IT'S DONE!

RONALDO TO JUVENTUS!

Official from Real Madrid saying he is off to Juventus


reported fee of 105m to Real , 25m to Mendes and 60m/year to Ronaldo!!!

Oh my God! Oh my God! I didn't want to believe it till I saw something official!!!!!!


If hes really earning 60m a year at Juve, then this is hardly the brilliant business deal some make it out to be.
Which club will pay a significant fee for him when hes set to leave Juve in 3-4years time?
How Juve can finance this type of deal is mind boggling to me...

might be mind boggling but you know that Dybala and Higuain earn as much as Lewandoski? both are on 15m/year+bonus depending on victories.

The only ways to pay Ronaldo are either sell both Dybala and Higuain and free up 30m/year + those who left and it's affordable.
Or get a increase from Adidas (currently giving us 24m/year) and Jeep (17m/year) which is peanuts compared to you,Real,Barca,United and so on...
Or they bet on Ronaldo bringing in more money than what he cost
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Re: Italian football

Postby MUTU » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:20 pm

What I think will be problematic for Juventus is the length of the deal of Ronaldo.

It's 4 years.

It means that when he's 37 years old he'll be earning €60M/yr (gross) and he'll likely not be the best player at the club at that time, so will his teammates be asking for similar (or higher) salaries? This deal greatly risks breaking Juventus' wage structure, IMO.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Dumbledore7 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:26 pm

MUTU wrote:What I think will be problematic for Juventus is the length of the deal of Ronaldo.

It's 4 years.

It means that when he's 37 years old he'll be earning €60M/yr (gross) and he'll likely not be the best player at the club at that time, so will his teammates be asking for similar (or higher) salaries? This deal greatly risks breaking Juventus' wage structure, IMO.

Isn't it pretty much broken already? :P

Juventus know what they're doing. Highly doubt other players will do that, players like Ronaldo tend to earn respect. Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Beckham have all done the same except they were much worse than Ronaldo.

Also, I don't like bringing the stereotype of Juventus "prolonging old players' careers" but there's a reason people say that. I'm pretty sure they'll win the CL with Ronaldo.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:59 pm

MUTU wrote:What I think will be problematic for Juventus is the length of the deal of Ronaldo.

It's 4 years.

It means that when he's 37 years old he'll be earning €60M/yr (gross) and he'll likely not be the best player at the club at that time, so will his teammates be asking for similar (or higher) salaries? This deal greatly risks breaking Juventus' wage structure, IMO.

well you see Juventus policy was always like that you can ask I will either agree or not.
If you get a offer from another team that it's acceptable for me I will sell you and replace you.

Sell and replace.
The only player that we kept despite his request was Alex Sandro.
Simply because we had already sold Bonucci and Dani Alves and we couldn't afford to redo 3/4 of the defense.

If Lewandoski was at Juventus we would've sold him already. Get our 150-180m and replace with someonelse that's it.
Our management doesn't care about fans feelings they have their business plan and a way to deal with certain things.. and after so many years of good management I kinda trust them.
Even if it's hurt to see your stars leaving =(
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:34 pm

Sarri and Jorginho to Chelsea
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