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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 4:48 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
Valerio wrote:by the way the name is Roberto Soriano a midfielder

Actually Ramsej I can't see a good reason to call someone or another.
They're all freaking average. We can only pray youth to grow well
https://www.futhead.com/18/squads/3346023/

these are the ones I'd call up right now
Emerson? Where is your pride?
His mum is Italian...

At least he is half italian

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We always had "oriundi" in Italy so why talking about pride?
Back then we had toons of Argentines naturalized due to grandpas or something.
If you want to talk let's do it about Balotelli. He is ghanese adopted but still elegible for Italy dunno how...
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Sat May 26, 2018 4:53 pm

Valerio wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:[quote="Valerio"]by the way the name is Roberto Soriano a midfielder

Actually Ramsej I can't see a good reason to call someone or another.
They're all freaking average. We can only pray youth to grow well
https://www.futhead.com/18/squads/3346023/

these are the ones I'd call up right now
Emerson? Where is your pride?
His mum is Italian...

At least he is half italian

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We always had "oriundi" in Italy so why talking about pride?
Back then we had toons of Argentines naturalized due to grandpas or something.
If you want to talk let's do it about Balotelli. He is ghanese adopted but still elegible for Italy dunno how...[/quote]If I am not mistaken there were players who won the World Cup twice in a row with two different National teams... Uruguay 1930 & Italy 1934

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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 6:55 pm

I don't remember but 1934 team was like half Argentina and half Italy
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Re: Italian football

Postby MUTU » Sat May 26, 2018 9:58 pm

Valerio, Balotelli is born in Italy and brought up by Italians. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's not Italian. He's far more Italian than Sansone.
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Re: Italian football

Postby America USA » Sat May 26, 2018 10:22 pm

MUTU wrote:Valerio, Balotelli is born in Italy and brought up by Italians. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's not Italian. He's far more Italian than Sansone.

Europe is for Europeans and Africa is for Africans.

Balotelli can come and join the US Men’s NT. We are a nation of immigrants and would gladly welcome his talent!
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 11:17 pm

MUTU wrote:Valerio, Balotelli is born in Italy and brought up by Italians. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's not Italian. He's far more Italian than Sansone.

dude his name is Mario BARWUAH BALOTELLI and has double nationality ghanese and italian.
Born in Italy from 2 Ghanese parents... being born here from strangers doesn't make you italian.
Nothing about racism just a fact.
2 americans on trip to Italy and baby get delivered is he italian to you? srsly?
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Re: Italian football

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat May 26, 2018 11:18 pm

Valerio wrote:
MUTU wrote:Valerio, Balotelli is born in Italy and brought up by Italians. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's not Italian. He's far more Italian than Sansone.

dude his name is Mario BARWUAH BALOTELLI and has double nationality ghanese and italian.
Born in Italy from 2 Ghanese parents... being born here from strangers doesn't make you italian.
Nothing about racism just a fact.
2 americans on trip to Italy and baby get delivered is he italian to you? srsly?
Wasn't he raised by "racially pure" Italians, though?

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Re: Italian football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 26, 2018 11:23 pm

That comparison isn't right. His parents weren't on a trip or anything like that, they lived in Italy and so did his foster parents. Until he moved to City, Balotelli lived his entire life in Italy. He never lived in Ghana.

It's an opinion, not fact. And so is me saying he's Italian and definitely not Ghanian. After all, you can't have facts when countries kike Italy and Ghana are just things we invented.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 11:25 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:That comparison isn't right. His parents weren't on a trip or anything like that, they lived in Italy and so did his foster parents. Until he moved to City, Balotelli lived his entire life in Italy. He never lived in Ghana.

It's an opinion, not fact. And so is me saying he's Italian and definitely not Ghanian. After all, you can't have facts when countries kike Italy and Ghana are just things we invented.

sure it's my opinion.
Laws state something else. But in Italy there is a very hot debact about this. Ius Sanguinis (blood is what matter) and Ius Soli (where you get delivered is your nationality)
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 11:28 pm

[/quote]Wasn't he raised by "racially pure" Italians, though?

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2 non italian parents doesn't make you italian anyway, anyhow it's not about race.
Could've been the child from white and spanish couple wouldn't change a thing.
If he wasn't such a retard I wouldn't give a fuck anyway but I feel kinda ashamed to be represented as "italian" by him.
Or by italo americans for what matter. People who call themselves italians but don't even know how to properly speak italian.
Laughable and shameful for real italians.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sat May 26, 2018 11:39 pm

Valerio wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:That comparison isn't right. His parents weren't on a trip or anything like that, they lived in Italy and so did his foster parents. Until he moved to City, Balotelli lived his entire life in Italy. He never lived in Ghana.

It's an opinion, not fact. And so is me saying he's Italian and definitely not Ghanian. After all, you can't have facts when countries kike Italy and Ghana are just things we invented.

sure it's my opinion.
Laws state something else. But in Italy there is a very hot debact about this. Ius Sanguinis (blood is what matter) and Ius Soli (where you get delivered is your nationality)

Well, it's really neither. It should be your upbringing. Any feeling of belonging comes from culture.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 11:42 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
Valerio wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:That comparison isn't right. His parents weren't on a trip or anything like that, they lived in Italy and so did his foster parents. Until he moved to City, Balotelli lived his entire life in Italy. He never lived in Ghana.

It's an opinion, not fact. And so is me saying he's Italian and definitely not Ghanian. After all, you can't have facts when countries kike Italy and Ghana are just things we invented.

sure it's my opinion.
Laws state something else. But in Italy there is a very hot debact about this. Ius Sanguinis (blood is what matter) and Ius Soli (where you get delivered is your nationality)

Well, it's really neither. It should be your upbringing. Any feeling of belonging comes from culture.

well in the end it's all about money.
Some italians doesn't want to pay for new comers benefits while liberals are for the free for all and doesn't give a shit
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Re: Italian football

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat May 26, 2018 11:42 pm

Valerio wrote:
Wasn't he raised by "racially pure" Italians, though?

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2 non italian parents doesn't make you italian anyway, anyhow it's not about race.
Could've been the child from white and spanish couple wouldn't change a thing.
If he wasn't such a retard I wouldn't give a **** anyway but I feel kinda ashamed to be represented as "italian" by him.
Or by italo americans for what matter. People who call themselves italians but don't even know how to properly speak italian.
Laughable and shameful for real italians.[/quote]

You missed my point. His adopted parents are Italian by whatever strict measure you want to employ, what else is he supposed to be? Could he even remember his biological parents?

And, to the later; are you perhaps insinuating Balotelli can't speak Italian?

Does he speak whatever language Ghanaians speak?

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Re: Italian football

Postby Valerio » Sat May 26, 2018 11:44 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
Valerio wrote:
Wasn't he raised by "racially pure" Italians, though?

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2 non italian parents doesn't make you italian anyway, anyhow it's not about race.
Could've been the child from white and spanish couple wouldn't change a thing.
If he wasn't such a retard I wouldn't give a **** anyway but I feel kinda ashamed to be represented as "italian" by him.
Or by italo americans for what matter. People who call themselves italians but don't even know how to properly speak italian.
Laughable and shameful for real italians.[/quote]

You missed my point. His adopted parents are Italian by whatever strict measure you want to employ, what else is he supposed to be? Could he even remember his biological parents?

And, to the later; are you perhaps insinuating Balotelli can't speak Italian?

Does he speak whatever language Ghanaians speak?

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Nope he can speak italian very well I just don't like him cause he has always been very stupid
It's the italo-americans who call themselves "italians" but they can't speak the language XD
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Re: Italian football

Postby America USA » Sat May 26, 2018 11:47 pm

Valerio wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:That comparison isn't right. His parents weren't on a trip or anything like that, they lived in Italy and so did his foster parents. Until he moved to City, Balotelli lived his entire life in Italy. He never lived in Ghana.

It's an opinion, not fact. And so is me saying he's Italian and definitely not Ghanian. After all, you can't have facts when countries kike Italy and Ghana are just things we invented.

sure it's my opinion.
Laws state something else. But in Italy there is a very hot debact about this. Ius Sanguinis (blood is what matter) and Ius Soli (where you get delivered is your nationality)

It is actually Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis

The United States, Canada and many parts of the New World have citizenship by birth (as it rightly should be) and a significant portion of the Old World has citizenship through parentage (also as it rightly should be)

If I’m not mistaken European countries like Italy, Spain, Denmark and maybe even Germany have Jus Sanguinis. Their country their rules!
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