Well, I have a little trouble comparing whole leagues in such an ultimate way... But Bremen better or on par with Villa? I doubt that...aterford wrote:I watched their match too and I wouldn't worry too much about it. Palace are a Championship-level team...Union, Wolfsburg, Stuttgart, Leipzig, etc would have no trouble beating them either, no doubt. And frankly: the PL as a whole is really, really down at the moment. There's about 6 teams who look like first-division sides and 14 who would look right at home in the championship...and of those six decent sides, half of them are so laughably mismanaged that they won't threaten anything of consequence any time soon.
Ultimately, if you'd been watching Pool before today, you'd understand that this was their best performance of the season and it happened to come against a terrible opponent. If you want to look at Liverpool's best performance of the year against an awful opponent and compare it to perhaps our worst performance of the season (against a team who's better than Palace, no less) and conclude they're better than us, so be it, but that's a pretty narrow view for assessing things. Lest we forget this same Liverpool side got 7 hung on them by Villa just over a month ago, and let's be honest: If we got 7 scored on us by Bremen or something, we'd hear about how we're sh*t because of it for the rest of the season.
Anyways, with any luck hopefully we get to face them in the UCL sometime soon, no doubt in my mind whatsoever we'd absolutely run them off the pitch.
If we drew Liverpool in the next round of the UCL, what do you think the result would be?
#12 wrote:But Bremen better or on par with Villa? I doubt that...
#12 wrote:Our best performance also happened against Schalke, didn’t it?
#12 wrote:I don’t AT ALL see them head and shoulders above us, I think it would be a really tough 50-50 tie... But my point was that overall for me they SEEM to do better... One can disagree, as always, but it’s not completely out of this world to get the feeling things are a little "easier" (as in lighthearted) for them...
All that said, within the last week we kinda turned things around a little...
#12 wrote:They‘re still doing a much better job
#12 wrote:The Liverpool that lead against Tottenham currently and will lead the table thereafter... While we stand no chance of still achieving that this calendar year
(BTW: They're not)#12 wrote:Again, they play in MUCH better leagues against better teams... And I do not see them always concede after 3 minutes... They (Liverpool) look more coherent and clearly have at least as many injuries as we do...Still Tottenham is better than Wolfsburg, Union and Bremen combined...
Well, my statement was more about them domestically doing better... Which they kind of are... I still think the PL is overall better, but yeah, I might be wrong, I watch a lot less than like 5-10 years ago... However, I think we are ahead of them in team cohesion... If that makes sense at all...aterford wrote:#12 wrote:But Bremen better or on par with Villa? I doubt that...
Yes, easily#12 wrote:Our best performance also happened against Schalke, didn’t it?
No, our best performance was 4-0 against Atletico Madrid, who currently lead La Liga and are incidentally the team who knocked Liverpool out of the UCL last season. (Or maybe the 6-2 vs Salzburg, who, as it would be...also gave Liverpool a pretty tough time last year.)#12 wrote:I don’t AT ALL see them head and shoulders above us, I think it would be a really tough 50-50 tie... But my point was that overall for me they SEEM to do better... One can disagree, as always, but it’s not completely out of this world to get the feeling things are a little "easier" (as in lighthearted) for them...
All that said, within the last week we kinda turned things around a little...
Well I think you'd forgive me for getting a different impression then...
Comments such as#12 wrote:They‘re still doing a much better job
or pointing out how their situation is unattainable for us...#12 wrote:The Liverpool that lead against Tottenham currently and will lead the table thereafter... While we stand no chance of still achieving that this calendar year
Or that their league and opponents are head and shoulders better than ours....(BTW: They're not)#12 wrote:Again, they play in MUCH better leagues against better teams... And I do not see them always concede after 3 minutes... They (Liverpool) look more coherent and clearly have at least as many injuries as we do...Still Tottenham is better than Wolfsburg, Union and Bremen combined...
Maybe I read it wrong, but that certainly doesn't say "Liverpool and Bayern are 50-50" to me....and that's what I take issue with. Saying they'd be a tough opponent for us is fine, but talking like they're "way better" and that what they've done means more because their opponents have been better...it's just not really accurate nor particularly realistic IMO
Couldn’t disagree more.ramsej84 wrote:Liverpool v Bayern
Liverpool
gk almost as good as Manu...
Better wingers
Better full backs
With Virgil their defense is more solid than ours...
They have a stronger bench
Manager as good as ours if not better
Therefore atm Liverpool have the upper hand
Behind the two of us imo there are Man C , Real and Juve and PSG
ramsej84 wrote:Their LB is complete man... he is solid in the tackle, intelligent, good crosser, can score goals
ramsej84 wrote:guys you must have never seen Robertson play !
and you are saying that Mane is not better than our wingers?!?!![]()
or Salah!!!!!!!
we are better in CF CM and GK that's it
Maybe you’ve never seen Davies?ramsej84 wrote:guys you must have never seen Robertson play !
and you are saying that Mane is not better than our wingers?!?!![]()
or Salah!!!!!!!
we are better in CF CM and GK that's it
There are loads of LB better than Robertson. We’re not the only ones who have them. He is very overhyped.MUTU wrote:So yeah, Mane was decent last season, but Robertson has yet to show some serious skills in the CL. He averaged 6.77 the previous season too, so his numbers are in the 6.75-6.77 zone, which puts him inferior to all our starting XI bar Alaba, who only Flick knows why on earth he's still starting. Also, pretty sure that Alaba would post better numbers than 6.75-6.77 if he was playing as LB where he belongs. So yes, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that we have 3 players better at LB than Robertson. I could also stretch it further, cos I'm pretty sure Kimmich would do a pretty decent job there as well.
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Maybe you’ve never seen Davies?ramsej84 wrote:guys you must have never seen Robertson play !
and you are saying that Mane is not better than our wingers?!?!![]()
or Salah!!!!!!!
we are better in CF CM and GK that's it
Well, I think currently Davies is not that good... Of course that is compared to who-the-fuck-is-Semedo-Davies from 5 months ago so the benchmark is pretty high...PunkCapitalist wrote:Yeah, Ramsej completely lost the argument once he said anyone is better than Davies.
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