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#12 wrote: a great coach makes the best of the players he has and adds 1-3 to improve his squad...

Wait this doesn't make sense. So is a coach expected to achieve something with any 8 players no matter how shit they are as long as there are 3 players that the coach wants?

Let me put it this way - before our treble, our past coaches have signed Robben and Ribery for us, so Jupp only had to make, say three major signings: Neuer, Javi and Mandzukic (on top of Dante, Boateng, Rafinha, Shaqiri, etc...). If Robben and Ribery weren't in Bayern then, and Jupp had to also sign them in 2011 or 2012 because they were needed to win our treble, would that make him a less great coach? Or would he have been expected to "get the best out of" Usami and Pranjic? Seriously, doesn't make sense man...

YlonenXabi wrote:Just wondering.... who's the best coach in the world for you?

Jupp. Für immer und ewig

Dumbledore7 wrote:

#12 wrote: a great coach makes the best of the players he has and adds 1-3 to improve his squad...

Wait this doesn't make sense. So is a coach expected to achieve something with any 8 players no matter how shit they are as long as there are 3 players that the coach wants?

Let me put it this way - before our treble, our past coaches have signed Robben and Ribery for us, so Jupp only had to make, say three major signings: Neuer, Javi and Mandzukic (on top of Dante, Boateng, Rafinha, Shaqiri, etc...). If Robben and Ribery weren't in Bayern then, and Jupp had to also sign them in 2011 or 2012 because they were needed to win our treble, would that make him a less great coach? Or would he have been expected to "get the best out of" Usami and Pranjic? Seriously, doesn't make sense man...

Does for me - anyone can have - relative - success if he buys it... A great coach is able to achieve something without spending more than what it takes to nurture Africa for a year...

What if the coach doesn't have a team? Also you ought to answer my question there - would Jupp have been a less great coach in that scenario?

Jupp BECAME a great coach... He was constantly learning, nit constantly buying
Your scenario is nonsense, cause you're assuming there's nothing there... They already had a few quality players... He brought in a whole squad for crying out loud... For hundreds of millions... Jupp brought Javi, Mandzukic and Dante if you will...

Also, finishing third in a shit league DEFINITELY would've made Jupp a less great coach

It's about exceeding expectations with the squad you have. Pep hasn't done that at ManCity... and buying so many players for such high prices, that won't prove he's a good coach in the end... if they do win the league, it's because they bought it... but if they lose, well...

Jupp bought Neuer, Boateng, Rafinha and went trophyless

Then he added Javi, Mandzukic, Dante and Shaqiri

And he had one of the best Bayern generations at their peak (Ribery, Robben, Lahm, Schweinsteiger)

City asked Pep to win trophies and gave him a huge transfer budget, so he is rebuilding their team. When he was with us, he didn't spend that much. He just adapted to our philosophy

Ancelotti is one of the best coaches in the business too and we've just had a disappointing season

Regarding Simeone and Klopp being the best coaches in the world... I guess that you will have that opinion until they coach us and fail. Just like Ancelotti or Favre were considered our saviours when Pep was here

YlonenXabi wrote:Ancelotti is one of the best coaches in the business too and we've just had a disappointing season

Regarding Simeone and Klopp being the best coaches in the world... I guess that you will have that opinion until they coach us and fail. Just like Ancelotti or Favre were considered our saviours when Pep was here

I consider Carlo as world class coach... but since he is our coach I did not pick him as not to be biased.
I surely don't rate in that category both Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola.

Forgot Antonio Conte, I dislike his personality but I believe that he is on of the best as well...

City destroyed Madrid last night. Although a friendly it was quite a number Pep did on Zidane!

Arsene Wenger is the greatest coach of all time.

Send via carrier pigeon.

Hahahaha, I remember very well the days when you'd type a name of any European and Latin American football players who come from the countries whose heritage and majority are Catholic and see muslim near their names in the Google search.

DerKaiser wrote:

FA will ban divers for two matches [source]

I have mixed feelings about this, for two reasons. First of all, there's a thin line between a dive and a fall. When does an incident become a 100% dive and when do they rule that the player lost his balance? Or who will judge whether or not the contact was accentuated?

The second issue is that we will have an official admittance that a player cheated, and while the player will be punished retrospectively (and indirectly the club who would be forced to be without his services for two matches), the club (and player, in the case of a red card) that were the victim in the situation during the actual match will still not get re-compensated. If they wanted to be serious about stamping out cheating, the victim in the situation would get a walkover win.