JANCKER wrote:
Firefox1234 wrote:I don't know why people are talking about Sane when Jesus is the one who has the real talent. He's so young yet all he does is want to be around the ball or find space to get the ball, you can't teach that type of work ethic you have to be born with it....
FCBayernMunchen wrote:ramsej84 wrote:How? I think we have better chances with Sane....
OMG Leicester...I have a bad feeling about them![]()
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As long as City keep struggling we remain a better team and therefore could attract Jesus. However we would have to pay loads.
JANCKER wrote:LvG is head and shoulders above Carletto and Pep when it comes to working with the youth... Coman and Kimmich only got a chance under him because injuries.
Pep brought Alonso here and he cost Bayern 10m, why did he cost that little and what can you get for 10m from RM today? He preferred an experienced player past his peak over developing a younger player. Alonso was brought here to be a key part of his project.
How many times did Pep trust Kimmich or someone else over Alonso? I can't recall if it was even once. Why do people believe that he'd play Sanches over Alonso when Alonso was his pet just as much as Carlo's today.
That kind of brilliance what Sane did against West Ham is not taught... Just watch what he did before he assisted Jesus, alien skills.
The only young player that Pep really trusted here was Bernat, he kept playing Alaba everywhere else so he could play Bernat.
He got a group of extremely gifted players at City now... while we have an old guard from which Ancelotti is trying to squeeze what is left.
The 'Pep is good with the youth' is a myth.
fashiondesign_guru wrote:So howcome we no longer get to see Coman, Sanches and Kimmich more like last year even in rotation. What Guardiola does is constant rotation of the squad where everyone gets plenty of minutes to play and show what they've got.
fashiondesign_guru wrote:Now while these kids almost get no minutes from Ancelotti (including the €35m Sanches), and Ancelotti has pretty much been the same way since his Milan days, Guardiola is playing with Gabriel Jesus (19 years old), Leroy Sane (21 years old), Sterling (22 years old), John Stones (22 years old) along with with purchases of several other young talent on their books currently on loan or waiting to happen, all with the approval or sometimes direct involvement of Guardiola (like Sane and Gabriel Jesus - Jesus says himself that he turned down other top clubs for Guardiola).
fashiondesign_guru wrote:As for Sane's "alien talent", here: transfers-f1/leroy-sane-t14298-465.html you say we don't need him, until he starts playing well and now you suddenly say he has alien talent. Guess what, Guardiola personally recruited both Sane and Gabriel Jesus with the intention of developing them and playing them and that's what he's doing now.
fashiondesign_guru wrote:How about we send Sanches, Coman and Kimmich to Guardiola and see what he does with them there?
I answered you in the post above, that's false... the only reason why they got so many minutes were injuries, and who knows what was the cause of all those injuries.
Name a player that Ancelotti has thrown away and became a regret? I can't think of any and he has a long career. In fact that Milan was built from trash of other big clubs, players who other big clubs thought weren't good enough. Just check the history of 80% of the players he had there. No player he thrown away became a regret.
I didn't want him because I valued our squad and I said that we don't need him NOW. I didn't watch Sane much before or now... but I can tell what kind of skills can't be taught.
I leave it to our scouts to find the best... I trust Reschke enough, he's responsible for 80% of the transfers we made. Pep didn't want Vidal... I will trust Reschke over Pep any day of the week.
Rebuilding will start from next season... Ancelotti isn't pulling strings in the transfer department, you think Hummels, Sule, Rudy are his transfers?
As for players willing to play for Pep... some are even willing to go to China. It's more romantic to say that you go to play for Pep than for money or admit that you wouldn't be able to be a regular at Bayern or Barca... I can see many of those players that signed for City being snatched from Barca or RM in the future.
Why don't you mention Thiago who is flourishing under Carlo?
PunkCapitalist wrote:Pep is fond of young players, that's pretty established. Thiago is not really "flourishing" for Carlo IMO, he was always about this good (maybe he has improved a bit) but people just failed to notice him because of random reasons.
Pep has his flaws (being a stubborn philosopher and his preposterous away record, for instance) but not giving chances to youth is not one.
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JANCKER wrote:Inzaghi, not good enough for Juve. Pirlo and Seedorf, not good enough for Inter. Gattuso, nobody knew him before.
Dumbledore7 wrote:JANCKER wrote:Inzaghi, not good enough for Juve. Pirlo and Seedorf, not good enough for Inter. Gattuso, nobody knew him before.
Wait what that's like saying Messi and Iniesta are not good enough for Real Madrid
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