FC Bayern Forum

Ruht · by **Ruht** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:27 pm

I agree with your points Bazi, but I just don't think Arsenal will withstand the pressure Dortmund can put them under. It's certainly going to be very interesting, both teams are missing key players so that will make it even better.

MaCk0y · by **MaCk0y** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:05 am

They need to better 'organise' their pressing though. It' not the first time they run out of steam by 70 min like what happened to us against Bayer. I think they should wait in their half to utilize their speed for the counter attack.

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Borusse · by **Borusse** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:32 am

The pressing is great if you have time to rest during the game, in other words, have some possesion as well. If we were only going to press and counter Arsenal we would run out of gas after the first half, something like what happened in the CL final.

MoFattal · by **MoFattal** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:39 am

Borusse wrote: something like what happened in the CL final.

You mean the way you walked directly into Don Jupp's hands

Borusse · by **Borusse** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:45 am

Nope, I mean when we made a risk, completely dominated Bayern in the first 25-30 minutes but didnt manage to execute the most important element of our plan - score a goal. After that it was only Bayern's poor finishing that kept us in the game almost to the extra time. :wink:

Dont make me mention the second yellow and just leave the subject please.

tflags · by **tflags** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:57 am

Borusse wrote:The pressing is great if you have time to rest during the game,

That is only because you don't have Müller on your team. I heard he doesn't need to take a shower after games, he barely sweats.

runaway · by **runaway** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:02 am

Racism is being thrown cheaply theses days. But narrow-mindedness has always been there not only in football. :lol:

Artcile: Jack Wilshere's Narrow-Minded Views Remind Us Why England Always Fail

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What they should take into account is from this article:

Footballers from England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are playing more minutes in the Championship and the Scottish Premiership than they did five years ago.

It's either because the foreign players are cheaper and a better option, or it's just the English players are just not good enough for the English Premier League. :mrgreen:

Another curious qoute from the BBC article by David Wetherall, head of player development at the Football League

"There's some fantastic youth development work being done in the Football League. About £60m per year is invested in youth development in the Football League, and two thirds of that comes from the clubs themselves."

Do you see any truth in that? It's just that even the academy kids from the top EPL clubs are foreigners. :think:

YlonenXabi · by **YlonenXabi** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:25 pm

MoFattal · by **MoFattal** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:29 pm

That's a really nice goal, but it wouldn't happen again if they repeated it a 100 times

Cazorla · by **Cazorla** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:44 pm

Bazi wrote:
Ruht wrote:
Borusse wrote:I always thought Dortmund's style is a perfect counter for the game of likes of Barca, Bayern and Arsenal. We will see how it goes, Arsenal are pushing WBA right now.

So have I. Your counters will completely destroy them I reckon. Ozil alone won't save them in that game. It will be a tough fixture no doubt, but I still think you are capable of a win even without your injured players. Arsenal are also not a very good side at home, for some reason

Arsenal are one of the very few teams in the world that are able to withstand Dortmund's pressing through their sheer technical and passing ability. On top of that they are well coached and utilize pressing a lot more than any other English team.

I think Arsenal, Barcelona and Bayern on the one hand and the really die hard park the bus, physically strong teams on the other hand of the spectrum are the teams with the biggest chances against Dortmund.

Borussia Dortmund has the biggest chances against teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG and other top teams that are used to having shit loads of possession without utilizing pressing. Teams that are used to their star players making the difference rather than the collective tactical approach. Those are teams Dortmund excels against because they hunt their players down in packs so the Ronaldos and Ibrahimovic's of this world won't even get the chance to show their qualities.

I expect the games against Arsenal to be very tough. The first goal might very well be decisive because the way both teams play this results in a huge advantage.