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Firefox1234 wrote:

Key Manchester United boardroom figures have now turned against David Moyes [source]

Took them long enough.

Lets be brutally honest here. The Manchester United players aren't Ballon d'Or contenders, but most of them aren't this crap either. Some like Cleverly played far better last season. That whole sense of confidence, entitlement and self-belief that took Ferguson 20 years to build has been shattered, trampled and brutally violated in half a season by his replacement.

Unfortunately (for United), giving Moyes the sack won't restore that self-belief, the damage done is irrevocable.

MatZam wrote:

Firefox1234 wrote:

Key Manchester United boardroom figures have now turned against David Moyes [source]

Took them long enough.

Lets be brutally honest here. The Manchester United players aren't Ballon d'Or contenders, but most of them aren't this crap either. Some like Cleverly played far better last season. That whole sense of confidence, entitlement and self-belief that took Ferguson 20 years to build has been shattered, trampled and brutally violated in half a season by his replacement.

Unfortunately (for United), giving Moyes the sack won't restore that self-belief, the damage done is irrevocable.

If you look over the current results Man U have a lot of top players in their squad that any manager would kill to have. Sadly for them Moyes has no clue on the proper tactics to get the most out of them.

Just for the record; Sir Alex (the manipulator of the referees) had the first six years of his reign at ManU trophy - less so IMO their board need to be patient.

ramsej84 wrote:Just for the record; Sir Alex (the manipulator of the referees) had the first six years of his reign at ManU trophy - less so IMO their board need to be patient.

The logic doesn't follow. Ferguson inherited a team that had finished 4th in the league the previous season and which hadn't won a league in about 20 years. Certainly you can't compare the state of United when Ferguson became manager to the state of United when Ferguson retired, even if you forget the fact that football has really changed since.

United is a club full of old-people ready for retirement home. That's been a key of United's decline in the last 3 years after 2011 CL final. You can't look for a bright future with Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidić, Patrice Evra and Michael Carrick at the same time playing. That's way too ridicilous.

I have to say that's major fault of Alex Ferguson. Even in that final 2011 against Barcelona he decided to put some of mentioned old guys, but... Hello!!! It was 2011, or 2012 and 2013 under Ferguson.

We all saw what had happened to United in the last 2 European seasons, pure disaster. 2012 and 2013 are tragedy for such a club as United reputation.

What did he do after the old man sold Cristiano Ronaldo? What did he actually buy as a replacement for Cristiano or even better question, what did Ferguson do to make a generation change in Manchester?

Nothing special and nothing spectacular. Only what he bought were Hernandez, Persie and Kagawa. The last one hasn't proved invested, yet. Central midfielder has been an old problem for 5-6 years so it's been with defensive midfielder, too.

And someone thought in 2012 and 2013 that United will be still great, that English competition will keep repeating lousy mistakes with transfer policy and coaches? Haha, yeah right... European failures in the last 2 years have shown that Ferguson was near his end, that he will remain stubborn and reject an option of buying new stars and talents.

You can't expect progress without buying 2-3 fresh players(but damn very good individuals) per summer transfer window. That was Ferguson responsibility to leave Moyes a team which will have a future, but what he left to Moyes is pure tragedy, consumed team which is faded.

When someone tells me how Moyes is incompetent, doesn't know anything about United and football, I would say how Moyes won with Everton in the whole 2012/13 season more points than United will won under his first season in this season.

United's last line is a world-class junk, central midfield is nothing better. Fellaini can't be seriously rated in this season in that entire mess.

Glazer family... What can I say about them... I cannot only blame Ferguson's transfer indifference and not to mention that stingy family. They have also played a big role in this situation since they've arrived to Manchester.

If you're really one of the richest clubs, no. 1, etc. Then prove it - spend money and develop all those youngsters.

"The 6 Golden boys" from the 90's are past tense even though Giggs' still playing.

To be honest he is doing just as good as he did at Everton

That's like saying us getting Luhukay next season and saying he's doing well if we have 36 points at this point next season.

To put it into perspective, we are currently 1 point away from double that amount.

So, there's a London derby tomorrow. Chelsea host Arsenal at 12:45 GMT, but what makes this match even more special is the fact that Arsene Wenger is going to lead Arsenal in his 1000th competitive match. Quite an astonishing feat considering how managers come and go nowadays. Lots of plaudits for him today which he absolutely deserves. Mourinho, being the wanker that he is did not miss the chance to attack him while "congratulating" him of course!

And here's a nice article about his career at Arsenal - http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... es-arsenal

Hope we can beat Cardiff tomorrow come on you reds.

SAS2014 wrote:Hope we can beat Cardiff tomorrow come on you reds.

Liverpool have bern riding this good run of form for weeks, may surprise the world and win the title.

Firefox1234 wrote:

SAS2014 wrote:Hope we can beat Cardiff tomorrow come on you reds.

Liverpool have bern riding this good run of form for weeks, may surprise the world and win the title.

I really hope so, cause Liverpool is my fav English team. Although they need to be careful cause sometimes they are not concentrated enough when facing teams from the lower end of the table...

Wouhou! Eto'o and Schurrle! 2-0

He will remember his 1000ème Wenger it.

3-0 penalty hazard

Oxlade chamberlain saved the ball with his hand with a great reflex , but the referee gave gibbs the red card!!!!

3-0 Ox does a handball and Gibbs is sent off