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Re: French football

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:29 pm

#12 wrote:But he didn’t...

All he did was offend Messi... That was below the belt by far...

But you’re still scandalizing a non-scandal!
No.... he mentioned a condition that affects a lot of children.

And please stop .

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Re: French football

Postby #12 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:41 pm

Only reacting... So the sheer mention of a condition is offending now?

And if this weren’t funny enough: it's YOU who's feeling this way?

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Re: French football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:04 pm

I don’t quite agree with you #12. When you insult someone by calling them that, you are indirectly saying autism is somethi to be ashamed of so it does hit home to everyone else too.

But I still can’t see how ramsej doesn’t see it’s the same thing with other comments.
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Re: French football

Postby #12 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:52 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:I don’t quite agree with you #12. When you insult someone by calling them that, you are indirectly saying autism is somethi to be ashamed of so it does hit home to everyone else too.

But I still can’t see how ramsej doesn’t see it’s the same thing with other comments.
Well, I didn’t see it... My reading though was that it was not something to be ashamed of... Autistic children are highly intelligent but lack social skills...
So rather than that I thought it was meant as "how could you be 'afraid' of someone who doesn’t care about social interaction anyways to tell you off?"

And I mean it's not like it is something like faggot or anything, it’s not used derogatory...
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Re: French football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:02 pm

I see what you mean. You might be right.
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Re: French football

Postby #12 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:10 pm

Is he though?
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Re: French football

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:37 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:They are both ultimately the same thing: it’s sending a message, intended or not, that being autistic or being black is something to be ashamed of.

I wouldn't put them in the same basket. Autism is categorised as a disability or a disorder. It is by definition an undesirable. No amount of sweet talking will change that. I doubt that there are many parents who punch the air in celebration when their child first gets diagnosed as being autistic.

I agree that you shouldn't be made to feel ashamed of being autistic or for having autistic children, but at the end of the day it's still an undesirable.

I don't see Dugarry poking fun at autism unless you 'read between the lines' words that aren't actually there. It's not like he said "haha he's autistic, hahaha that's so funny, autistic hahahaha". Of course, people who are sensitive to the issue will unfortunately read between said lines and conclude that someone must be making fun for mentioning the word that triggers them, in this case "autistic".
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Re: French football

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:46 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:What I find interesting is that ramsej calls the following comment offensive: "What is [Griezmann] afraid of? A kid who is 1.5 metres tall and half autistic?" Including to people it wasn't directed at and their parents, but not racist chants towards black players during a football match because they're just intended to rile them up (which is probably true, but it doesn't make them any less problematic).

I thought you were going to say that you expected ramsej84 to be pissed off about the 1.5 metres tall part
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Re: French football

Postby Firefox1234 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:03 pm

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Re: French football

Postby MUTU » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:07 pm

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Re: French football

Postby Lahmies » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:40 pm

yeah... that pretty much buried PSG's chances in the CL (not that there were many in the first place).
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Re: French football

Postby MUTU » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:12 am

Lahmies wrote:yeah... that pretty much buried PSG's chances in the CL (not that there were many in the first place).

You're assuming he's badly injured. I saw a video of him making it to the bench (on crutches) and a photo of him celebrating with the cup. Maybe it's not so serious.
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Re: French football

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:41 am

That's what friendlies are for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cancel the damn thing vs Marseille!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: French football

Postby MUTU » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:48 am

ramsej84 wrote:That's what friendlies are for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cancel the damn thing vs Marseille!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It wasn't a friendly. It was a cup final. If we don't do the friendly against Marseille, I would suggest giving a walkover in the Champions League as there would be no point participating and ridiculing ourselves.
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Re: French football

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:53 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:That's what friendlies are for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cancel the damn thing vs Marseille!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It wasn't a friendly. It was a cup final. If we don't do the friendly against Marseille, I would suggest giving a walkover in the Champions League as there would be no point participating and ridiculing ourselves.


I don't trust them ... I don't know...

a Cup final!?!?! Wasn't the season called off in France?
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