SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Given how things are going in our club, I wouldn’t be surprised if after all James wants to go back and join the new coach
MUTU wrote:SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Given how things are going in our club, I wouldn’t be surprised if after all James wants to go back and join the new coach
If he has a right of refusal yes. Otherwise Real Madrid would need to pay. That is we could trigger the clause and then sell him back to them for a higher price.
SrLuisGuilherme wrote:MUTU wrote:SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Given how things are going in our club, I wouldn’t be surprised if after all James wants to go back and join the new coach
If he has a right of refusal yes. Otherwise Real Madrid would need to pay. That is we could trigger the clause and then sell him back to them for a higher price.
Doubt the board would do that, especially because KHR is in good terms with Perez
Fénix wrote:We'll find out the whole truth and details of Zidane's resignation in 5-6 years(or even more)
MUTU wrote:Fénix wrote:We'll find out the whole truth and details of Zidane's resignation in 5-6 years(or even more)
You mean other than the fact that VAR was officially confirmed to be introduced in La Liga next season?
I disagree. Yes, Madrid are bound to decline soon, but regardless Zidane showed that he is a very pragmatic coach, willing to adapt to the available squad as needed. He took Casemiro from beibg a no-one to being one of the best DMs in Europe, and did so while resisting Florentino's urge to play all their Galácticos, which took balls. He used multiple formations during his tenure, depending on the characteristics of the quad under his disposal (a thing that Jupp failed to do). Not tactical fundamentalism, but rather whatever best fits his squad. This is enough to qualify him as a better coach than pretty much anyone else; most coaches only know 1 formation and plainly refuse to play in any other way.America USA wrote:Smart guy Zidane. Knew that his “luck” won’t last longer so quit while he was on top. Real squad is aging and this season they’ve been saved by winning the CL in otherwise what was a truly pathetic domestic season.
He knew only reason he won so much was not because he’s a master tactician or a great coach (got tactically outcoached over two legs by Jupp, Klopp’s Liverpool too were on top against them until Ramos took out Salah) but because he inherited possibly the best squad in Europe.
His unearthly luck with opponents getting injured/suspended, referees favorable decisions and opponents having brain farts in big games would eventually run out. So he decides to leave on a high.
Very Smart man. He was a good manager of top quality players but that’s about that. I don’t think he’ll work that well in any other European team.
PunkCapitalist wrote:I disagree. Yes, Madrid are bound to decline soon, but regardless Zidane showed that he is a very pragmatic coach, willing to adapt to the available squad as needed. He took Casemiro from beibg a no-one to being one of the best DMs in Europe, and did so while resisting Florentino's urge to play all their Galácticos, which took balls. He used multiple formations during his tenure, depending on the characteristics of the quad under his disposal (a thing that Jupp failed to do). Not tactical fundamentalism, but rather whatever best fits his squad. This is enough to qualify him as a better coach than pretty much anyone else; most coaches only know 1 formation and plainly refuse to play in any other way.America USA wrote:Smart guy Zidane. Knew that his “luck” won’t last longer so quit while he was on top. Real squad is aging and this season they’ve been saved by winning the CL in otherwise what was a truly pathetic domestic season.
He knew only reason he won so much was not because he’s a master tactician or a great coach (got tactically outcoached over two legs by Jupp, Klopp’s Liverpool too were on top against them until Ramos took out Salah) but because he inherited possibly the best squad in Europe.
His unearthly luck with opponents getting injured/suspended, referees favorable decisions and opponents having brain farts in big games would eventually run out. So he decides to leave on a high.
Very Smart man. He was a good manager of top quality players but that’s about that. I don’t think he’ll work that well in any other European team.
He'd be great with Bayern, for instance, because we also have a fantastic squad filled with quality, but have been systematically underperforming due to poor tactics and braindead starting elevens. He is also unafraid of benching stars (James, Bale, et al), a characteristics that would do wonders with us.
You know, at this point I don't want any geniuses, just a coach who can be pragmatic and not married for life to a single formation/tactical setup.*America USA wrote:PunkCapitalist wrote:I disagree. Yes, Madrid are bound to decline soon, but regardless Zidane showed that he is a very pragmatic coach, willing to adapt to the available squad as needed. He took Casemiro from beibg a no-one to being one of the best DMs in Europe, and did so while resisting Florentino's urge to play all their Galácticos, which took balls. He used multiple formations during his tenure, depending on the characteristics of the quad under his disposal (a thing that Jupp failed to do). Not tactical fundamentalism, but rather whatever best fits his squad. This is enough to qualify him as a better coach than pretty much anyone else; most coaches only know 1 formation and plainly refuse to play in any other way.America USA wrote:Smart guy Zidane. Knew that his “luck” won’t last longer so quit while he was on top. Real squad is aging and this season they’ve been saved by winning the CL in otherwise what was a truly pathetic domestic season.
He knew only reason he won so much was not because he’s a master tactician or a great coach (got tactically outcoached over two legs by Jupp, Klopp’s Liverpool too were on top against them until Ramos took out Salah) but because he inherited possibly the best squad in Europe.
His unearthly luck with opponents getting injured/suspended, referees favorable decisions and opponents having brain farts in big games would eventually run out. So he decides to leave on a high.
Very Smart man. He was a good manager of top quality players but that’s about that. I don’t think he’ll work that well in any other European team.
He'd be great with Bayern, for instance, because we also have a fantastic squad filled with quality, but have been systematically underperforming due to poor tactics and braindead starting elevens. He is also unafraid of benching stars (James, Bale, et al), a characteristics that would do wonders with us.
Agree with your analysis partly.
Yes credit him for trying new formations and being pragmatic.
However, I don’t think I can say any player truly improved under him. Isco and Casemiro just got better at what those two do (creating and defending respectively) by getting more and more play time and having the backing of the coach. Asensio was always one of those Spanish prodigies whose talent would just have to show through.
As for benching stars. He could do that because he had a squad that was absolutely stacked. Even Bayern can do that but we are pussies of upsetting big egos. So yeah credit to Zidane for not being afraid to hurt egos. However, you do know that he can make such calls because of his previous stature as a phenomenal player!
Also, last but not the least, never forget the insane amount of luck that went in his favor in ALL THREE YEARS of his European Cup wins.
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