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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby aterford » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:44 pm

Oh, FFS. Can't see Fürth getting back into this one now.
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:48 pm

Dortmund let go of a big Fürth there.
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:03 am

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ramsej84 wrote:Lucky bastards
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby #12 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:55 am

MUTU wrote:They may as well just hand us the Bundesliga and German Cup title already.


Like last year?
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:25 pm

#12 wrote:
MUTU wrote:They may as well just hand us the Bundesliga and German Cup title already.


Like last year?

No, like 3 times out of the 5 preceding seasons.
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby #12 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:13 pm

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MUTU wrote:They may as well just hand us the Bundesliga and German Cup title already.


Like last year?

No, like 3 times out of the 5 preceding seasons.


And none of the previous two...
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:07 pm

#12, are you trying to imply that Bayern are NOT the most dominant team in Germany? The Bundesliga title has become a snoozefest. It's in the Pokal where other teams have a small possibility of making a surprise over 90/120 minutes. And it really is a small possibility when you compare the amount of losses vs the amount of matches.

Since 2011/12, we've won 37 matches and lost 4.
Or you can say that since 2012/13 we've won 32 matches and lost 3. Your call.

In reality if this was a Bundesliga season (we're talking about a similar amount of matches), we'd have won it easily.
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby #12 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:24 am

Yeah but it isn’t... Reality is that since 2010 we have "merely" won 50% of Pokal titles...
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:44 am

#12 wrote:Yeah but it isn’t... Reality is that since 2010 we have "merely" won 50% of Pokal titles...

Which is unhealthy dominance.
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

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#12 wrote:Yeah but it isn’t... Reality is that since 2010 we have "merely" won 50% of Pokal titles...

Which is unhealthy dominance.


Despite shit management, yes...
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Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby #12 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:02 pm

Now I wonder... Dortmund are rotating today... That must mean they‘ll lose their touch that - as opposed to us - was actually there before, right?
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby aterford » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:42 pm

#12 wrote:Now I wonder... Dortmund are rotating today... That must mean they‘ll lose their touch that - as opposed to us - was actually there before, right?


It's stuff like this that makes me wonder how confident Kovac really is in himself.
Union Berlin aren't a great side but they're undoubtedly MILES better than Rödinghausen....and I *think* one could still argue that *on paper* Bayern might have a better squad than BVB (not necessarily in regards to form, but just overall player quality). Yet Favre is the coach who feels comfortable rotating, not Kovac. Why is that?

I just kind of get the sense that in spite of the bosses' public backing, it seems like Kovac feels as though every match could cost him his job. Yeah, it's an elimination match, but we should feel okay to play someone like Will in midfield or Jeong on the wing against a 4th-tier opponent. But it feels like Kovac deliberately takes the "safe" or "experienced" options because he doesn't seem confident that he could possibly survive if something went wrong.

Perhaps that's too much speculation, but i don't know. It makes sense to me. Feels like the players aren't confident in Kovac and that probably stems (to a degree, anyways) from Kovac perhaps not being so confident in himself either.
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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:46 pm

Too massive games tonight...

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Re: Official generic DFB-Pokal discussion thread

Postby #12 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:06 pm

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#12 wrote:Now I wonder... Dortmund are rotating today... That must mean they‘ll lose their touch that - as opposed to us - was actually there before, right?


It's stuff like this that makes me wonder how confident Kovac really is in himself.
Union Berlin aren't a great side but they're undoubtedly MILES better than Rödinghausen....and I *think* one could still argue that *on paper* Bayern might have a better squad than BVB (not necessarily in regards to form, but just overall player quality). Yet Favre is the coach who feels comfortable rotating, not Kovac. Why is that?

I just kind of get the sense that in spite of the bosses' public backing, it seems like Kovac feels as though every match could cost him his job. Yeah, it's an elimination match, but we should feel okay to play someone like Will in midfield or Jeong on the wing against a 4th-tier opponent. But it feels like Kovac deliberately takes the "safe" or "experienced" options because he doesn't seem confident that he could possibly survive if something went wrong.

Perhaps that's too much speculation, but i don't know. It makes sense to me. Feels like the players aren't confident in Kovac and that probably stems (to a degree, anyways) from Kovac perhaps not being so confident in himself either.


Yeah that’s cause he sucks

Kidding aside: we never played many youngsters in these games... I think Kovac has far bigger flaws than this issue...
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