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[2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:45 pm

Energie Cottbus will go through inside 90 minutes
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Energie Cottbus will go through after extra time
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Energie Cottbus will go through on penalties
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Bayern Munich will go through on penalties
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Bayern Munich will go through after extra time
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Bayern Munich will go through inside 90 minutes
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby sherpthederp » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:22 pm

When a 4th division team assesses your RW and decides they dont need to mark him, there is a problem.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby shpati_L1 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:24 pm

Our right wing is a fucking joke. We need a player that can dribble and be good one vs one. Fucking hell.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby Mavs » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:26 pm

Coman MOTM so far. Constant source of danger. Deserved a goal by now. Unlucky.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:33 pm

shpati_L1 wrote:Our right wing is a **** joke. We need a player that can dribble and be good one vs one. **** hell.
Thanked by mistake.

Everybody knows that Muller is not a RW and is playing there just for necessity

And correction for the post abovr yours.
Cottbus are in div3

Thiago has been a bit careless lately...
Nervous, commiting unnecessary fouls...
Misplaced passes etc
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby envagyokazapad » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:34 pm

All we do is swing the ball into the middle and hope it hits Lewandowski.
Coman is playing well and we still look toothless. Our offensive problems go far beyond having Sané or Coutinho or whoever.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby sherpthederp » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:39 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
shpati_L1 wrote:Our right wing is a **** joke. We need a player that can dribble and be good one vs one. **** hell.
Thanked by mistake.

Everybody knows that Muller is not a RW and is playing there just for necessity

And correction for the post abovr yours.
Cottbus are in div3

Thiago has been a bit careless lately...
Nervous, commiting unnecessary fouls...
Misplaced passes etc

Cottbus were relegated last season, they are playing in Regionalliga Nordost currently...
Also Thiago has been a bit sloppy but with Tolisso and Renato both bombing forward he’s getting overrun in the midfield. Tolisso lost possession and jogged back on Thiagos yellow card.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:44 pm

I like the way we play. Plenty of good off the ball movement, quick short pass combinations etc

But at the moment we are just lacking quality. There are 3 positions that clearly need to be upgraded

---------------------------- Neuer ------------------------
Kimmich --------- Süle ------ Pavard ------------ Alaba
---------------------------- Thiago ------------------------
-------------- Tolisso ---------------- Sanches -----------
Müller --------------------------------------------- Coman
------------------------ Lewandowski ---------------------


Tolisso: He is slowly recovering his form, far from his best at the moment

Sanches: He is not a bad player, but he doesn't add anything. Just some fine horizontal passes and that's it. No creativity and no defense at all. Maybe in a different tactical set up or in a different team he could fulfil his potential. But I highly doubt he will be here next season

Müller: He really sucks playing out wide and he is not much better playing in central positions. But at least he sometimes scores or assists when he does it



I like how we always try to attack using the wings, but with different approaches.

Kovac is not a big fan of overlappings so they barely happen, but we see how sometimes the wing backs play more centrally (especially Alaba) giving more presence in midfield. On the right hand side it's usually the other way around. Kimmich plays the right wing position while Müller usually moves to 2nd striker role. Whenever Müller plays out wide, we suck

It's probably the 10th time that I say this, but if you put a creative midfielder like James (or Eriksen) and a top winger instead of Sanches and Müller this team would be really amazing
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby kod2600 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:52 pm

Their coach is copying Klopp's appearance lol Also his reactions. Get lost dude xD
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby sherpthederp » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:02 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I like the way we play. Plenty of good off the ball movement, quick short pass combinations etc

But at the moment we are just lacking quality. There are 3 positions that clearly need to be upgraded

---------------------------- Neuer ------------------------
Kimmich --------- Süle ------ Pavard ------------ Alaba
---------------------------- Thiago ------------------------
-------------- Tolisso ---------------- Sanches -----------
Müller --------------------------------------------- Coman
------------------------ Lewandowski ---------------------


Tolisso: He is slowly recovering his form, far from his best at the moment

Sanches: He is not a bad player, but he doesn't add anything. Just some fine horizontal passes and that's it. No creativity and no defense at all. Maybe in a different tactical set up or in a different team he could fulfil his potential. But I highly doubt he will be here next season

Müller: He really sucks playing out wide and he is not much better playing in central positions. But at least he sometimes scores or assists when he does it



I like how we always try to attack using the wings, but with different approaches.

Kovac is not a big fan of overlappings so they barely happen, but we see how sometimes the wing backs play more centrally (especially Alaba) giving more presence in midfield. On the right hand side it's usually the other way around. Kimmich plays the right wing position while Müller usually moves to 2nd striker role. Whenever Müller plays out wide, we suck

It's probably the 10th time that I say this, but if you put a creative midfielder like James (or Eriksen) and a top winger instead of Sanches and Müller this team would be really amazing


I think Tolisso suits us better in a 4231, he has learned how to read the game well and has a bit more patience than Sanches on the ball. His first instinct when receiving the ball is to pick his head up and look for a pass, Renato puts his head down and drives.

If we revert to a 4231 for big games Thiago and Tolisso with Coutinho in front would be more than sufficient for stability in midfield.

Kovac has yet to drill any defensive responsibility into his 8s, I don’t think Roca and Thiago upfield is going to solve a systematic issue. We do desperately need a RW and a creative 10 type player for sure. The final third is stagnant and is reduced to Coman on 1v1s and overloading the right with an additional midfielder and playing pinball until something ends up at Lewys feet.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby Mavs » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:02 pm

What a POS tackle. Poor Tolisso. Hopefully not hurt.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:03 pm

kod2600 wrote:Their coach is copying Klopp's appearance lol Also his reactions. Get lost dude xD
Hahha exactly my same thoughts...
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby IsiahRashad » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:05 pm

Renato is a B-E-A-S-T.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:08 pm

The only thing Renato does is run
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby kod2600 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:08 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:Renato is a B-E-A-S-T.



S-U-B-B-E-D.
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Re: [2019-08-12] Energie Cottbus vs Bayern Munich

Postby Machiavellico » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:08 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I like the way we play. Plenty of good off the ball movement, quick short pass combinations etc

But at the moment we are just lacking quality. There are 3 positions that clearly need to be upgraded

---------------------------- Neuer ------------------------
Kimmich --------- Süle ------ Pavard ------------ Alaba
---------------------------- Thiago ------------------------
-------------- Tolisso ---------------- Sanches -----------
Müller --------------------------------------------- Coman
------------------------ Lewandowski ---------------------


Tolisso: He is slowly recovering his form, far from his best at the moment

Sanches: He is not a bad player, but he doesn't add anything. Just some fine horizontal passes and that's it. No creativity and no defense at all. Maybe in a different tactical set up or in a different team he could fulfil his potential. But I highly doubt he will be here next season

Müller: He really sucks playing out wide and he is not much better playing in central positions. But at least he sometimes scores or assists when he does it



I like how we always try to attack using the wings, but with different approaches.

Kovac is not a big fan of overlappings so they barely happen, but we see how sometimes the wing backs play more centrally (especially Alaba) giving more presence in midfield. On the right hand side it's usually the other way around. Kimmich plays the right wing position while Müller usually moves to 2nd striker role. Whenever Müller plays out wide, we suck

It's probably the 10th time that I say this, but if you put a creative midfielder like James (or Eriksen) and a top winger instead of Sanches and Müller this team would be really amazing


No creativity brought by Sanches? Have you even watched the game? He and Coman were the only ones to take players on and bring the ball as close as possible to the goal.

And of course the coach thinks with his ass and takes him out instead of Tolisso who's done very little
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