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[2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:45 pm

Borussia Mönchengladbach will win inside 90 minutes
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Borussia Mönchengladbach will win after extra time
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Borussia Mönchengladbach will win on penalties
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Bayern Munich will win on penalties
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Bayern Munich will win after extra time
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17%
Bayern Munich will win inside 90 minutes
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83%
 
Total votes : 6

Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Ed. » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:12 am

YlonenXabi wrote:I'm curious to read his Top 5


I'll bite.

1. Liverpool A
2. Man City A
3. Liverpool B
4. Man City B
5. Bayern

Before the usual suspects come out with their pitch forks, I'm being facetious ofcourse with the A and B. We are easily in the top 3 but the gulf in consistency, squad depth and defence between those 2 and Bayern, IMHO is quite significant.

It's highly impressive how Klopp swaps out 3-4 players for Liverpool and no one would notice (except for Salah perhaps). Ditto with Man City.
Whereas with our blokes, as we have just seen, you play the same XI and we may get a big variation in performance ( for whatever reason)

But most importantly ,those PL clubs, they make scoring against them, very very hard work.
Bayern's attack on their best day can rival liverpool's and is much better than City but that's about it.

We have also a high of 4 players in the first X1, that are irreplaceable and the drop in quality with the squad replacement is so steep, that an injury to any one of them basically means throwing your TV set out the window for the season : Lewa, Kimmich, Neuer, Davies.

Liverpool have 1 in Salah. Maybe 2 if you consider Van Dijk, (but they've got good cover at CB now) and Pep has intentionally built Man City not to be over reliant on any one player.
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby r10 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:13 am

MUTU wrote:not losing on purpose to get the coach fired.
Why not? They realised how great were last trainings with vice-coach ;-)
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby JimmyHH » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:17 am

come on guys nothing is over, heads up!!!
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby r10 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:23 am

aterford wrote:it was Adi Hütter who was leading Frankfurt when they hung 5 on us
He's to be our next coach.


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JimmyHH wrote:Sommer did the game of his life
No. Trapp did earlier this month, but not Sommer tonight.
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:05 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Guys pls refrain from joking with mental illnesses

Who is joking with mental illnesses? Are you referring to my 5 stages of grief?
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:10 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I'm curious to read his Top 5

Meanwhile, in alternate reality, we're first in 3 different rankings.

http://clubelo.com/Ranking
http://elofootball.com/#club
https://www.euroclubindex.com/
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Alexander » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:14 pm

MUTU wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I'm curious to read his Top 5

Meanwhile, in alternate reality, we're first in 3 different rankings.

http://clubelo.com/Ranking
http://elofootball.com/#club
https://www.euroclubindex.com/


We are behind City but otherwise favourites according to betting sites.
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:23 pm

Alexander wrote:
#12 wrote:Finns, I thought denial was what people did regarding our fundamental underlying problems…

But hey "we are still the best team", just kid yourselves if it helps you…


I believe we have a good chance of winning the league and that would make us the best team in Germany. We also have a shot in the CL. Of course not with displays like yesterday.
With displays like yesterday we have a shot at getting relegated in Kreisliga C
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:24 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
zozon wrote:Well, at least Kimmich played the full 90 minutes again - yay.
He will be dead by March and I hope he himself realises it, because Julian clearly hasnt got the balls to bench the freshly renewed primadonna.

On the other side - let's bench Roca in EVERY game for no reason whatsoever and Sabitzer too because they've only played hockey before their transfer to Bayern and have no clue what to do on a football field.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying Roca and Sabitzer should've started/played more minutes this game. There are plenty of games to spend minutes on and keep all the midfielders fresh, but no. Lets just always play Kimmich and Goretzka.
Yeah the Kimmich thing was a massive mistake yesterday. We should have subbed him off the moment we gave up - and make no mistake, we did give up and stop trying.
Yeah, happened some time around 8.15
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:26 pm

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Alexander wrote:
#12 wrote:Finns, I thought denial was what people did regarding our fundamental underlying problems…

But hey "we are still the best team", just kid yourselves if it helps you…


I believe we have a good chance of winning the league and that would make us the best team in Germany. We also have a shot in the CL. Of course not with displays like yesterday.
Of course. But there is absolutely no reason why we should look at at 12-13 good performances and 2-3 bad ones and think “OK, we’re definitely going to see mostly more of those 2-3 rather than those 12-13”.

It does not take a perfect team to win the CL. We just happen to think so because the last two times we did so we were as close to perfect as can be - and even then had some bad losses early in Flick’s reign and vs BATE in 2012.
It doesn’t… But it does FOR US!
There’s not a single tie in the HISTORY of the CL where we progressed luckily and/or without dominating BOTH games… We almost never go through "narrowly"… There’s either no doubt - or we‘re out…
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:27 pm

JimmyHH wrote:come on guys nothing is over, heads up!!!
Pokal is
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:28 pm

MUTU wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I'm curious to read his Top 5

Meanwhile, in alternate reality, we're first in 3 different rankings.

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Great, how much silverware does that get us?
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:29 pm

Alexander wrote:
MUTU wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I'm curious to read his Top 5

Meanwhile, in alternate reality, we're first in 3 different rankings.

http://clubelo.com/Ranking
http://elofootball.com/#club
https://www.euroclubindex.com/


We are behind City but otherwise favourites according to betting sites.
Ask the betting sites who were yesterday‘s favorites
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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby CiriacoS » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:29 pm

Dont get me wrong but did someone really thought that we will streamroll each opponnet at least 4-0 until the end of the season. That they will somehow start to surrender when they see us on the field and we will win just by showing up?

Becoming the best is easy. Staying like that for a whole season is gigantic challenge. Therefore I am was absolutely expecting that we will slip sooner rather than later. This is a team, which is winning for 9 years straight. 2 trebles in 7 years. And after a string of phenomenal perfrormances its just really not easy to keep your level of concentration and motivation so high for each game. It is not even healthy since it is October and they will absolutely burn out till the crucial part of the season.

I just really did not expect that we will be torn apart like this. That we will not even want to play properly. I understand the lack of motivation to some extent. I also think that Nagelsmann being out, having this media frenzy around Kimmich and Hernandez, all of this factors had some influence to the state of the team yesterday. They looked so distracted like they are not there.

So all things considered I am absolutely confident that yesterday does not change anything apart from the fact that no one in the team is safe and should we decide to show any kind of arrogance we can be punished severely by any opponent. Our playing style is such that does not tolerate any lapse of concentration. Otherwise it can be suicide.

Also, when we destroy Leverkusen the Bundesliga is a farmers league. But when this happen we are somehow all of a sudden disaster. I think objectively in terms of tactical and football quality the Bundesliga is much much better than what is portraited on social media. Yes Bayern is great, but it is now coincidence we won two trebles in 7 years. Juventus apparanetly also plays in a farmer league but they have not won any treble in this period.


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Re: [2021-10-27] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Alexander » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:31 pm

#12 wrote:
Alexander wrote:
#12 wrote:Finns, I thought denial was what people did regarding our fundamental underlying problems…

But hey "we are still the best team", just kid yourselves if it helps you…


I believe we have a good chance of winning the league and that would make us the best team in Germany. We also have a shot in the CL. Of course not with displays like yesterday.
With displays like yesterday we have a shot at getting relegated in Kreisliga C


Do you believe we will make a lot of these matches? I do not. My guess is that we win the league.
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