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[2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

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Borussia Dortmund will win
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Bayern Munich will win
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby München Minded » Wed May 09, 2012 5:09 pm

Müller definitely adds pace and will to our attacking line, even when he isn't scoring. As for Klopp, it does seem like that bastard has our playing style figured out -- and know that shutting down the Robbery duo definitely hinders us -- but every team attempts to shut them down. Just like every team tries to shut down top teams with top players like Messi or C Ronaldo. It doesn't guarantee they can thwart us if we counteract their defensive tactics. With Müller back on form, and if we switch things up during the build up of play, we can certainly knock out their defensive tactics. Dortmund have the same formation we do, as well as many german teams nowadays, but Klopp knows what that formation can do and how to handle it. I remember years when Werder or Schalke were doing the same, and ultimately we overcame them with adjustments to the formation and tactics, and newer players help change things. So after we beat them in the Pokal, I hope we can beat them twice next season.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed May 09, 2012 10:33 pm

München Minded wrote:Müller definitely adds pace and will to our attacking line, even when he isn't scoring. As for Klopp, it does seem like that bastard has our playing style figured out -- and know that shutting down the Robbery duo definitely hinders us -- but every team attempts to shut them down. Just like every team tries to shut down top teams with top players like Messi or C Ronaldo. It doesn't guarantee they can thwart us if we counteract their defensive tactics. With Müller back on form, and if we switch things up during the build up of play, we can certainly knock out their defensive tactics. Dortmund have the same formation we do, as well as many german teams nowadays, but Klopp knows what that formation can do and how to handle it. I remember years when Werder or Schalke were doing the same, and ultimately we overcame them with adjustments to the formation and tactics, and newer players help change things. So after we beat them in the Pokal, I hope we can beat them twice next season.


I agree Muller adds pace but this year he has looks a bit sluggish on the pitch he doesnt look as fast as he was last year....
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Thu May 10, 2012 11:05 am

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I agree Muller adds pace but this year he has looks a bit sluggish on the pitch he doesnt look as fast as he was last year....


Nah, it is just that our tactics allow him much less space to maneuver as compared to last year and his current performance with the NT.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby hgb09 » Fri May 11, 2012 12:41 pm

DVB didn't travel with the team. He's gonna play today with FCB II in order to gain match practice.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Fri May 11, 2012 12:44 pm

hgb09 wrote:DVB didn't travel with the team. He's gonna play today with FCB II in order to gain match practice.

This is great, just what I predicted and hoped for, though really maybe, just maybe, he can still travel late for the match and play a few minutes.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby hgb09 » Fri May 11, 2012 12:49 pm

MUTU wrote:
hgb09 wrote:DVB didn't travel with the team. He's gonna play today with FCB II in order to gain match practice.

This is great, just what I predicted and hoped for, though really maybe, just maybe, he can still travel late for the match and play a few minutes.

Do u think Jupp may take the risk and start him in the CL final?
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby michel » Fri May 11, 2012 1:02 pm

Here is your preview from FC Bayern Central. This time, readers pitched in some good points.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby München Minded » Fri May 11, 2012 4:38 pm

hgb09 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
hgb09 wrote:DVB didn't travel with the team. He's gonna play today with FCB II in order to gain match practice.

This is great, just what I predicted and hoped for, though really maybe, just maybe, he can still travel late for the match and play a few minutes.

Do u think Jupp may take the risk and start him in the CL final?


Not a chance, Tymo would do better than him anyway -- as Tymo has been fit, played CB recently, and although far from perfect he is a better option than DvB right now. Just because DvB is a CB by trade, he is not ready regardless of any recent training or playing for FCBII. I hope he doesn't play unless absolutely needed, or unless somehow he has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that in training he looked like the injury never happened and he was defending like a madman. But I'll trust JH decision whatever it is, unless we get raped in defense and lose the CL then we can pinpoint the issues.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby AvatarX » Fri May 11, 2012 4:45 pm

München Minded wrote:unless we get raped in defense and lose the CL then we can pinpoint the issues.


Hehe....that's the good thing of being a fan instead of a coach. When you are a fan you can always say "what if..." about past events, but when you are coach you need to somehow predict the future :)
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Fri May 11, 2012 8:23 pm

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hgb09 wrote:DVB didn't travel with the team. He's gonna play today with FCB II in order to gain match practice.

This is great, just what I predicted and hoped for, though really maybe, just maybe, he can still travel late for the match and play a few minutes.

After playing 62 minutes for the reserves and hitting a post from a corner header, he will be travelling to Berlin and join the rest of the squad for the DFB Pokal final :)

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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Fri May 11, 2012 8:29 pm

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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby München Minded » Fri May 11, 2012 8:36 pm

What a cocky bastard. I hate that guy more and more every day -- what a disgrace he was ever a Bayern player.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby quaazi » Fri May 11, 2012 9:06 pm

MUTU wrote:hitting a post from a corner header

God I have missed this. I stumbled on a Hinrunde goals video, and every time we scored from a set piece - he was there getting the key touch. Without him... I think Gomez bumbled one corner in the goal v Basel, but that's it.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Yahya » Sat May 12, 2012 12:43 am

Basically it would be highly preferable to omit Van Buyten by all means from starting during the finals even if he shows progress during the practice sessions. The guy has only just returned from an injury which implies anything can happen. JH should better be safe than sorry :|

..Hopping back on topic, I can see a draw or a hard-fought win for us since the Pokal will obviously be on neutral ground plus we returned full of refreshment and experience after eliminating Madrid in the CL semis. It's about time BVB and especially Subotic learn their dirty lesson :D
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Firefox1234 » Sat May 12, 2012 1:37 am

I know this is the German Cup page but lets not forget our true goal....

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