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[2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat May 12, 2012 8:30 pm

Borussia Dortmund will win
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Bayern Munich will win
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby dambun » Sat May 12, 2012 9:31 pm

And I can't believe how many individual mistakes can our players make in a single match.... I can't believe it...
like 4 of their 5 goals were scored because of our players' blunders...

It's unbelievable!!!
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat May 12, 2012 9:31 pm

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dambun wrote:Have our team been training in the past few weeks???
To my eyes It was only Badstuber who played the way he should.... It's a shame he won't be playing next week...

He should be our captain... The other players are simply mentally weak!


Are we talking about the same guy who was crying in the first half?

Not only in the first half. He was crying all match. What was wrong with him? He's been crying since he was yellow carded against Real Madrid, either through sadness or happiness. He should toughen up a bit.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Sat May 12, 2012 9:32 pm

Rossi has been injured for 6 months and he will miss a minimum of 6 months more
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby machkover » Sat May 12, 2012 9:35 pm

the score lets many conclude that Bayern doesn't deserve to be at the CL final with such a defence !! i completely agree though i wish we will get the CL title !! thanks God Klopp won't provide some help to chelsea's coach .otherwise, goodbye CL :twisted: :twisted: !!
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Firefox1234 » Sat May 12, 2012 9:38 pm

machkover wrote:the score lets many conclude that Bayern doesn't deserve to be at the CL final with such a defence !! i completely agree though i wish we will get the CL title !! thanks God Klopp won't provide some help to chelsea's coach .otherwise, goodbye CL :twisted: :twisted: !!


I was suprised how far we got in the UCL this year i didnt think our squad was complete yet to beat teams like Barca or Madrid but nevertheless i still expect nothing less than a win in the UCL final next week!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby AdepT » Sat May 12, 2012 9:39 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Rossi has been injured for 6 months and he will miss a minimum of 6 months more


Well at least he'll be a cheap buy and will be ready for the 2nd half and further seasons. IMO we should make a gamble here.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby AvatarX » Sat May 12, 2012 9:39 pm

I can't believe the final score.

Everything that could go wrong for us and go right for them, it did. Too many mistakes for our defense, too many mistakes for our midfield.
No determination, no passion, no clear mind at all.

It seems we have a dark horse in Germany. I hope we make up for this loss with the CL trophy.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby machkover » Sat May 12, 2012 9:41 pm

Mazen96 wrote:This is getting ridiculous

you are right ! our defence and JH really ridiculised all of us tonight !! that was a day to forget if ever we manage !
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby dambun » Sat May 12, 2012 9:41 pm

dambun wrote:And I can't believe how many individual mistakes can our players make in a single match....

Actually I think there are 2 main reasons why we had so many individual errors....
1. Low morale >> because of our back to back defeats to Borussia Dortmund
2. Their tactical approach >> Their very high tempo + running and pressing high on the pitch

Like I said, our current team does not have the tactical quality to tackle this... So we lose over and over...

we have neither of the above mentioned problems against Chelsea.... So if we manage to forget about this game and increase the morale of the team somehow, WE WILL DEFEAT CHELSEA and become EUROPAMEISTER....

If we do, we'll totally forget about all this misery by then.... BUT I don't want us to... WE HAVE TO think of something... and even change our headcoach if necessary after winning the CL... This is not tolerable anymore...
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 12, 2012 9:42 pm

dambun wrote:And I can't believe how many individual mistakes can our players make in a single match.... I can't believe it...
like 4 of their 5 goals were scored because of our players' blunders...

Yes unfortunately this is true
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby ronnie98 » Sat May 12, 2012 9:43 pm

A- Gomez should never be our main striker from now on. Vs. Madrid and now again Vs. Dortmund. Did lewandowski miss or crumble as much as gomez did??
B- Did Robben shoot or try to cross and shoot???!! Is he hearing the Kaiser's criticisim in his head every second?? What happened to his hunger and killer instinct??? #-o
C- Ribery very selfish and bad at it.
D- Muller even bad as a sub.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby AvatarX » Sat May 12, 2012 9:44 pm

dambun wrote:And I can't believe how many individual mistakes can our players make in a single match.... I can't believe it...
like 4 of their 5 goals were scored because of our players' blunders...

It's unbelievable!!!

Totally agree.

The final score is a bit flattering IMO. Most of their goals were a gift from our defense while we seem to work very hard to reach their box.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby quaazi » Sat May 12, 2012 9:46 pm

dambun wrote: and even change our headcoach if necessary after winning the CL... This is not tolerable anymore...

Honestly, I had hoped this would be the course of action all season. I have nothing against Jupp and I think he's done a superb job in steadying the ship after van Gaal, but in so many ways he is a coach we needed a few years ago instead of right now. His tactical approach always has troubles with counterattacks, and even then the level he can make the team play is no longer sufficient to compete with Dortmund due to their huge jump in quality recently.
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby dambun » Sat May 12, 2012 9:46 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:BTW this match showed why Müller shouldn't start against Chelsea IMO.

With Müller playing and with Alaba, Badstuber and Gustavo suspended our bench will be a very big sh!t. Look at our substitutions against Real Madrid. Only Müller came on in both games if I'm not mistaken ! Today it was more or less the same

Our bench quality is zero so at least we should have Müller on the bench as secret weapon if things are not working.


This is bad reasoning.... we can't let our best players sit on the bench so that we have a good bench...!!!

You have a good point that we have a weak bench, I admit... But the solution you're proposing is not the right one IMO...

Given that we have a bad bench... whenever we have difficulties on the field, we need to change player's positions and change our tactical scheme... this is our solution until we strengthen our team in the summer...
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Re: [2012-05-12] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby AvatarX » Sat May 12, 2012 9:46 pm

ronnie98 wrote:B- Did Robben shoot or try to cross and shoot???!! Is he hearing the Kaiser's criticisim in his head every second?? What happened to his hunger and killer instinct??? #-o


He should have been selfish, especially in the second half when their GK was out of position and he passed.

ronnie98 wrote:C- Ribery very selfish and bad at it.


Ribery was almost the only one trying...
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