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[2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:00 pm

Bayer 04 Leverkusen will win inside 90 minutes
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Bayer 04 Leverkusen will win after extra time
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Bayer 04 Leverkusen will win on penalties
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Bayern Munich will win on penalties
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Bayern Munich will win after extra time
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Bayern Munich will win inside 90 minutes
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Total votes : 5

Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby nm462272 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:58 am

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nm462272 wrote:re Havertz: for someone who is supposed to be the next big thing, and is worth >100 million, he was supremely underwhelming today. sure, bad tactics, etc. can have an effect on players, but for someone who is apparently one of the top 5 players 21 or under... he showed nothing today.

he's good, that's for sure, but one wonders if it's enough for Bayern
If you are surrounded with average teammates... playing vs one of the best teams in the world...
Playing out of position... (in fact he improved when Volland came in)


i get what you are saying, and i agree that poor teammates, poor tactics, etc. can have an effect, but in the end - he's supposed to be an elite player with a huge price tag. he must be a true difference maker for that price...
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:16 am

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nm462272 wrote:re Havertz: for someone who is supposed to be the next big thing, and is worth >100 million, he was supremely underwhelming today. sure, bad tactics, etc. can have an effect on players, but for someone who is apparently one of the top 5 players 21 or under... he showed nothing today.

he's good, that's for sure, but one wonders if it's enough for Bayern


and i guess to continue this thought, imagine that Bayern has two transfer targets but can only pay for one - Havertz and Sancho. Both would cost 100 million +, both are young talented attackers, etc. Who would you pick? I have the feeling that the vast majority would pick Sancho...

I'm not totally convinced by either, but would prefer going for Havertz.
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:21 am

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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:55 am

Alexander wrote:A few thoughts from me:

1. Kimmich is on his way to become a great midfielder. I had my doubts but he is getting better and better.

2. Although Goretzka has been doing well I think Thiago should bench him.

3. I don`t feel all secure of seeing our backfour against the very best of Europe.

4. Lewandowski is the clear favourite to win Ballon D ór.

5. If Sané reaches his potential he will make us a lot better.

6. Without losing control like we did in the second half I bellieve we can beat every team and win the Champions League.
1-3 are probably true, 4 is wrong, 5 and 6 are highly questionable...
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:58 am

MUTU wrote:Yes, people are reading too much into what happened when the match was already won and Bayern players shifted down two gears.
No YOU don’t get it... A 2-1 or a 3-2 (both VERY possible) are different than a 3-1...They would've opened up this "already won" match - and the question is: would the team have been able to shift those two gears back up... Cause very few are...
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:02 am

nm462272 wrote:re Havertz: for someone who is supposed to be the next big thing, and is worth >100 million, he was supremely underwhelming today. sure, bad tactics, etc. can have an effect on players, but for someone who is apparently one of the top 5 players 21 or under... he showed nothing today.

he's good, that's for sure, but one wonders if it's enough for Bayern
Well, judging on one game, sure... Then again Davies looked like an amateur against Diaby (would be a good third winger...) twice... Goretzka was not exactly great yesterday and besides his finish Gnabry was invisible... Even Lewa had a mediocre game that Hradecky turned into a great performance...

All that to say Havertz was pure shit yesterday... But he’s still where we shoupd go after Müller...
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:05 am

nm462272 wrote:
nm462272 wrote:re Havertz: for someone who is supposed to be the next big thing, and is worth >100 million, he was supremely underwhelming today. sure, bad tactics, etc. can have an effect on players, but for someone who is apparently one of the top 5 players 21 or under... he showed nothing today.

he's good, that's for sure, but one wonders if it's enough for Bayern


and i guess to continue this thought, imagine that Bayern has two transfer targets but can only pay for one - Havertz and Sancho. Both would cost 100 million +, both are young talented attackers, etc. Who would you pick? I have the feeling that the vast majority would pick Sancho...
Sure, but Sancho is 130m and we just bought a winger... If you designated Gnabry as a Müller replacement, then you could argue about Sancho...
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

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nm462272 wrote:
nm462272 wrote:re Havertz: for someone who is supposed to be the next big thing, and is worth >100 million, he was supremely underwhelming today. sure, bad tactics, etc. can have an effect on players, but for someone who is apparently one of the top 5 players 21 or under... he showed nothing today.

he's good, that's for sure, but one wonders if it's enough for Bayern


and i guess to continue this thought, imagine that Bayern has two transfer targets but can only pay for one - Havertz and Sancho. Both would cost 100 million +, both are young talented attackers, etc. Who would you pick? I have the feeling that the vast majority would pick Sancho...

I'm not totally convinced by either, but would prefer going for Havertz.
You’re not convinced by Sancho? Man...
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:44 am

During the celebrations I noticed Lucas taking a photo with all the Spanish speaking teammates...

Tbh I don't know why and how he plays for France....

He spent his youth career in Spain as well...

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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:57 am



I can’t get over how funny the third goal is. Two extremes of goalkeeping.
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Re: [2020-07-04] Bayer Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich

Postby Lahmies » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:45 pm

ramsej84 wrote:During the celebrations I noticed Lucas taking a photo with all the Spanish speaking teammates...

Tbh I don't know why and how he plays for France....

He spent his youth career in Spain as well...

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Is it so mind-boggling to you that people can speak different languages, live parts of their lives in different countries, have friends from different places, etc? a lot of people are born into multicultural families or move around a lot (esp. football players). It's really not that complex.
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