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Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vote!

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Top 10 greatest UCL/EC1 winning sides of all time:

Poll ended at Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Barcelona 2009&2011
6
9%
Ajax 1995
4
6%
Bayern Munich 2013
14
21%
Barcelona 2015
4
6%
Milan late 80's-mid 90's
4
6%
Bayern Munich 1974-1976
5
7%
Liverpool late 70's-mid 80's
3
4%
Real Madrid 1956-1960
5
7%
Bayern Munich 2020
11
16%
Ajax 1971-1973
5
7%
Manchester United 1999
0
No votes
Liverpool 2019
1
1%
Real Madrid 2016-2018
3
4%
Celtic 1967
1
1%
Barcelona 1992
1
1%
 
Total votes : 67

Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby MUTU » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:27 am

MUTU wrote:
super_dror wrote:I see Man Utd 99' side as a very overrated and hyped by the British media and United fans, but it seems that the neutral fans don't consider that team as a great or special. We can see it here on the poll, and on most of conversations about great historical teams- the non-United fans (which it's still the vast majority of Football fans) don't rate the 99' side as one of the greats and considered even their 68'/08' sides as better.


Bayern 99 was better than Man Utd and showed it in the CL final. Sure, Man Utd won but Bayern was clearly the better team on the pitch, just super unlucky. To note Bayern was missing top striker Elber to injury.

That season Bayern also met them in the group stages and were still marginally better. Elber (missing in the final) scored twice and Bayern topped the group. It is really really hard to argue Man Utd 99 was better than Bayern 99 let alone the greatest team of all time.

I'd like to add that less than 2 years later, Bayern and Man Utd met again and Bayern won both the home and away matches.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby YlonenXabi » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:17 am

AC Milan didn't even win the treble that year.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby Alexander » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:44 am

YlonenXabi wrote:AC Milan didn't even win the treble that year.


If you are thinking of 1994 I remember that I was so impressed with how they picked Barca apart. Desailly like a rock and Savicevic showing what he was able to do when having his day. Difficult to compare with other great teams but it was a hell of a match. That year they won Serie A for the third time in a row. I think that team is a contender :) .
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby super_dror » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:08 pm

Besides Giggs, P. Schols and Peter Schmichael I don't see any of the other players in that 99' roster as a world class, or even an excellent player or great talent. Just avarage+.
And above all of that- the luck, the results which were'nt great at all (even finished 2nd in the group stage), the lack of dominence in their matches (except vs Broondby) and their very weaq title defence in the next season.
Many other champions were infinity times more impressive and more dominate
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby T4L10N » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:25 pm

As a Bayern fan since 98, our 2020 version is the best team in my book. Statistics and the way we played during that period (less than a year) is still unmatched in football history. I would say its tough to compare the team of single year to those which dominated over the few years. Also, Barca 09 was very different from the 11 one and cant imagine as a one team.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:50 pm

It depends on how we interpret the question to me.

If we were to interpret it as the best team overall, then it's between Barca 2009-11 and Bayern 2012-13 (we were already the best in 2012 despite the trophyless season). Tough one to call, but I'm biased, so Bayern.

If we were to interpret it literally as a winning team though, so the team which played the best CL season ever, then there really is no discussion. It's got to be Bayern 2020. They smashed almost every CL record and won every single game, something unparalleled.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby T4L10N » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:43 pm

I think Inter 2010 has the right to be in this list as well :)
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby super_dror » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:08 pm

Yeah, that Inter side was very strong and ballanced, but there was no place for any contender, since it's up to 15 options
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby T4L10N » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:11 pm

super_dror wrote:Yeah, that Inter side was very strong and ballanced, but there was no place for any contender, since it's up to 15 options


Yeah, pretty good list, although I would replace Celtic (I havent seen them for apparent reasons :D) with Inter and maybe RM (60s), Ajax (70s), LFC (70-80s) and us (70s) with more recent teams. Dont get me wrong (I do not think that recent teams and players are any better than those of past), its just hard to judge those teams. Just my opinion though.

Ultimately, I would still pick our team of 2020 no matter the list :coffee:
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby Achilles » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:22 pm

From the teams I have seen playing. Pep Barca. Jupp Bayern and Real Madrid of Zidane where unquestionably the top teams.

How that Real Madrid managed to win all those UCLs is a big question. Way inferior team to watch compared to Barca and Bayern. Even 2020 Bayern where a better sight than the 4-time winning Real Madrid. Ancelotti's Real was maybe an excellent side and very exciting on the counter but Zidane's was [-X

Barca 2009-2011 is the best. Bayern next and then Real Madrid Ancelotti.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby super_dror » Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:39 pm

Yeah, the 3-peat UCL winning Madrid side of Zizou was'nt very attractive to watch and was'nt such a show-team. Was very lucky, very effective and solid, and had CR7 in his prime, who really brought by his own feet the major success (with a big help of the refs, also).
Still, a legendary team thought.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby T4L10N » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:45 pm

I really dont get that Barca 09-12 hype. They would have never won a single CL if VAR was there (I mean with proper refereeing).

PS. as much as I hate them, Milan 03-07 should be up there.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby MihailT » Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:10 am

T4L10N wrote:I really dont get that Barca 09-12 hype. They would have never won a single CL if VAR was there (I mean with proper refereeing).

PS. as much as I hate them, Milan 03-07 should be up there.


Not to mention that Barcelona '09 was wildly different from Barcelona '11. To the point that Barcelona '11 was closer to Barcelona '13 than it was to Barcelona '09.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby super_dror » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:28 am

These are the last few days for this poll to run, before it's closed.

So those who haven't take a part in voting yet- you are invited to cast your vote. Bumped it for the last time.
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Re: Top 10 best UCL/EC1 winning teams of all time- let's vot

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:00 am

Just to put it into perspective, ClubElo compare the Elo ranking across time for clubs and the most dominant teams in history were:

  1. Barcelona '12 (2108)
  2. Bayern '14 (2104)
  3. Real Madrid '14 (2097)
  4. Liverpool '20 (2085)
  5. Real Madrid '61 (2069)
  6. Bayern '20 (2060)
  7. Milan '93 (2052)
  8. Man City '19 (2047)
  9. MTK '55 (2037)
  10. Chelsea '08 (2027)
  11. Man United '08 (2026)
  12. Atletico '16 (2024)
  13. Barcelona '60 (2006)
  14. Juventus '18 (2000)
  15. Liverpool '08 (1988)
  16. Porto '11 (1974)
  17. Hamburg '80 (1972)
  18. Dortmund '13 (1972)
  19. Real Madrid '01 (1969)
  20. Valencia '04 (1968)

To note that the same algorithm ranks today's Bayern at 2016 and Man City at 1997.
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