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[2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby aterford » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:55 pm

bmguy wrote:This lyon is a lot tougher than Barca as they can press and they press really well.

If our defense plays like what we did in the early stages of the 1st half against Barcelona, weak on high ball and left big gaps on Davies side, we'll pay the price


I'm not so sure about that honestly. On the whole, Barcelona as a team pressed more than Lyon and did so more successfully than Lyon did/does. When adjusted for most-used starting XI per 90 minutes, Lyon makes ~15% more pressing attempts, but Barcelona are still more successful in said attempts.

What may perhaps be of more interest (IMO) is the way that the two teams deal with receiving pressure. Our press caused Barca a lot of trouble, of course. Two of the most common ways to deal with that are to try and pass out of the press or to play more long-balls so as to not have as much opportunity to be pressured (i.e. it's easier to pressure someone who wants to hold on to/carry the ball rather than someone who quickly sends it up the pitch).

In that regard, we see that Barcelona this season was arguably better at dealing with other teams' pressing than Lyon has been: they attempt to pass out of the press more frequently than Lyon, and are more successful in doing so. In the same way, we also find that Barcelona are more successful in their long ball passing attempts than Lyon have been.

In other words: It would not be particularly surprising to see the same problems that dogged Barcelona against us also on display for Lyon, perhaps to the same effect even.
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:43 pm

Lyon will sit down and wait for us.... they won't play like Barcelona.
It will be harder than playing Shitty....
I am very nervous about this game.
you saw what they can do as I did; ok they got lucky on many occasions but still the way they play their game makes them unpredictable.
Plus I was impressed by their physical play and their robust defenders and forwards...
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:50 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Lyon will sit down and wait for us.... they won't play like Barcelona.
It will be harder than playing Shitty....
I am very nervous about this game.
you saw what they can do as I did; ok they got lucky on many occasions but still the way they play their game makes them unpredictable.
Plus I was impressed by their physical play and their robust defenders and forwards...
Did you watch the City game? I HOPE they sit and wait for us. They were horrible once they began doing that.
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby Hardrade » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:58 pm

Come on ramsej, we will roflstomp them back to the stone age. We’ll face a much tougher opponent in the finals, regardless of who wins tonight’s game.
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:59 pm

Hardrade wrote:Come on ramsej, we will roflstomp them back to the stone age. We’ll face a much tougher opponent in the finals, regardless of who wins tonight’s game.
Don't make me even more anxious
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby SrLuisGuilherme » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:10 pm

Don’t forget this Lyon team was trashed by PSG a couple of times this season...
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby OhioFan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:08 pm

At this stage of the CL, I am (not literally) shitting my pants before every match.
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:05 pm

SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Don’t forget this Lyon team was trashed by PSG a couple of times this season...


Well, just 2 weeks ago they faced each other in the Cup final and the match went to penalties so...
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby SrLuisGuilherme » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:10 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:
SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Don’t forget this Lyon team was trashed by PSG a couple of times this season...


Well, just 2 weeks ago they faced each other in the Cup final and the match went to penalties so...
IIRC PSG was missing key players in that match
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby aterford » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:40 pm

SrLuisGuilherme wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:
SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Don’t forget this Lyon team was trashed by PSG a couple of times this season...


Well, just 2 weeks ago they faced each other in the Cup final and the match went to penalties so...
IIRC PSG was missing key players in that match


PSG starting XI vs Lyon, FWIW:

Neymar - Icardi - di Maria

Verratti - Marquinhos - Gueye

Bakker - Kimpembe - Silva - Kurzawa

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I know Mbappe was out injured then and I think Icardi was not totally fit.
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby SrLuisGuilherme » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:41 pm

aterford wrote:
SrLuisGuilherme wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:[quote="SrLuisGuilherme"]Don’t forget this Lyon team was trashed by PSG a couple of times this season...


Well, just 2 weeks ago they faced each other in the Cup final and the match went to penalties so...
IIRC PSG was missing key players in that match


PSG starting XI vs Lyon, FWIW:

Neymar - Icardi - di Maria

Verratti - Marquinhos - Gueye

Bakker - Kimpembe - Silva - Kurzawa

Navas

I know Mbappe was out injured then and I think Icardi was not totally fit.[/quote]Backup fullbacks as well...
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby nm462272 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:13 am

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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby bmguy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:34 am

YlonenXabi wrote:
SrLuisGuilherme wrote:Don’t forget this Lyon team was trashed by PSG a couple of times this season...


Well, just 2 weeks ago they faced each other in the Cup final and the match went to penalties so...

hard to say, domestic teams know each other too well :roll:
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Re: [2020-08-19] Lyon vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:50 am

Lyon doesn't know how to park the bus nor Rudi Garcia as a coach can suddenly turn them into a defensive machine.
Their power relies on their midfield-offense link up which is very decent and they are ruthless in this K.O phase(+lucky) which is very important being the underdog. If we can manage to block Aouar and keep an eye to Depay the job will be done from our frontline, no worries but we need our midfielders and the defense to be on high alert cause right now they have high morale and nothing to lose. They might come out a bit shy and tight their links because they know that Bayern will enter all guns blazing to end the match from the first 20 minutes so until then they might play rough and tight but surely they can't keep up for 90 minutes. The game vs City showed that since they started to attack they believed that they can win it more and more. I'm expecting the same tactics today. They just don't want to concede early because then Bayern goes hunting.
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