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[2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:00 pm

Liverpool F.C. will win
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50%
It will end in a draw
3
9%
Bayern Munich will win
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Total votes : 34

Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:05 pm

MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:How many times we already discussed the factor "rest" in here and it never made an evident impact... :roll:

Of course it does make a difference! John Arne Riise clearly told me this morning he thinks Liverpool will go through thanks to this rest. He made it sound almost like it is the most important factor. This guy knows what recovery time and rest means, even from a psychological point of view.


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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:16 pm

MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Good thing is that there's rotation.

If Kovač does what he did at the start of the season, then yes.

Otherwise:
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At least, this time he (sorry ramsej84) *touch wood* should have a wider selection of players to choose from because the injury situation is getting thinner and thinner.


Kovac needs to find the right mix. Neither radical nor non-exisiting rotation is the way to go.
Once he's found his 11 - which he looks like he did - he should be able to rotate more every now and then.
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:35 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:How many times we already discussed the factor "rest" in here and it never made an evident impact... :roll:

Of course it does make a difference! John Arne Riise clearly told me this morning he thinks Liverpool will go through thanks to this rest. He made it sound almost like it is the most important factor. This guy knows what recovery time and rest means, even from a psychological point of view.


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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:37 pm

bastos80 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Good thing is that there's rotation.

If Kovač does what he did at the start of the season, then yes.

Otherwise:
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At least, this time he (sorry ramsej84) *touch wood* should have a wider selection of players to choose from because the injury situation is getting thinner and thinner.


Kovac needs to find the right mix. Neither radical nor non-exisiting rotation is the way to go.
Once he's found his 11 - which he looks like he did - he should be able to rotate more every now and then.

Absolutely agree with the first part.

But I have some doubts with the 2nd part. There's going to be Davies who'll get some playing time, OK, but the biggest question will be James vs Mueller I'd say. Also, once Tolisso will be back it will (hopefully!) be a selection headache for him.
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:41 pm

MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:
MUTU wrote:If Kovač does what he did at the start of the season, then yes.

Otherwise:
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At least, this time he (sorry ramsej84) *touch wood* should have a wider selection of players to choose from because the injury situation is getting thinner and thinner.


Kovac needs to find the right mix. Neither radical nor non-exisiting rotation is the way to go.
Once he's found his 11 - which he looks like he did - he should be able to rotate more every now and then.

Absolutely agree with the first part.

But I have some doubts with the 2nd part. There's going to be Davies who'll get some playing time, OK, but the biggest question will be James vs Mueller I'd say. Also, once Tolisso will be back it will (hopefully!) be a selection headache for him.


Don't really think that rules out Kovac finding his main 11.
Except for James who he'll have to build up for the Liverpool game, and maybe Hummels vs Boateng, the team is set.
Davies will get his occasional 10-15 minutes here and there until Robben and Ribéry are gone. There's no pressure on him.
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:42 pm

bastos80 wrote:Don't really think that rules out Kovac finding his main 11.
Except for James who he'll have to build up for the Liverpool game, and maybe Hummels vs Boateng, the team is set.
Davies will get his occasional 10-15 minutes here and there until Robben and Ribéry are gone. There's no pressure on him.

You're assuming no fresh injuries and no new purchases, but OK that sounds about right...
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:58 pm

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bastos80 wrote:Don't really think that rules out Kovac finding his main 11.
Except for James who he'll have to build up for the Liverpool game, and maybe Hummels vs Boateng, the team is set.
Davies will get his occasional 10-15 minutes here and there until Robben and Ribéry are gone. There's no pressure on him.

You're assuming no fresh injuries and no new purchases, but OK that sounds about right...


Yeah, I don't assume any new transfer that would change much the remaining season (incl. CHO, same story as Davies).
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:35 pm

MUTU wrote:Final schedule

2nd February (FC Bayern play, Liverpool don't)
Leverkusen vs FC Bayern: 

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4th February (Liverpool play, FC Bayern don't)
West Ham vs Liverpool: 

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6th February (FC Bayern play, Liverpool don't)
Hertha vs FC Bayern that could finish with extra time: 

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9th February (FC Bayern kick off 2.5 hours later)
Liverpool vs Bournemouth: 

FC Bayern vs Schalke: 

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15th February (FC Bayern play, Liverpool don't)
FC Augsburg vs FC Bayern: 

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19th February
Liverpool vs FC Bayern: 

Conclusion: FC Bayern play 2 extra matches in the run-up to the match. Furthermore, by the time Liverpool kick off their last ball and start preparing for the match against Bayern in the same stadium, FC Bayern have to:
- play a match against Schalke
- travel to Augsburg
- play against Augsburg
- travel back to Munich
- travel to Liverpool.
We're usually lethargic after winter break, so maybe that is to our advantage

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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:37 am

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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:45 am

I was at first against Ribery or Robben playing, but I now think at least one of them will/should play. They will be extra fired up... this is potentially the last away Champions League match of their career.
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby Borusse » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:53 pm

Yeah, I can already imagine Ribery getting sent off for some stupid shit because he'll be extra fired up. :D
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby Dumbledore7 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:57 pm

MUTU wrote:I was at first against Ribery or Robben playing, but I now think at least one of them will/should play. They will be extra fired up... this is potentially the last away Champions League match of their career.

Robben is still the one for big games. Would be silly to not play him.
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:25 pm

MUTU wrote:I was at first against Ribery or Robben playing, but I now think at least one of them will/should play. They will be extra fired up... this is potentially the last away Champions League match of their career.


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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby longeleven » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:43 am

Robben, yes. Ribery. No, thanks.
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Re: [2019-02-19] Liverpool vs Bayern Munich

Postby zozon » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:55 am

Robben must start.

On the other hand - Ribery should come as a substitute on 70+ minutes.
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