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[2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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S.L. Benfica will win
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Total votes : 3

Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby #12 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:43 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
#12 wrote:Coming from someone promoting the SuperLeague, we cannot expect you to understand European and German fanbase and mentality…

There’s no socialism involved, simply because it‘s members only in the first place… unfettered capitalism, btw, has never worked anywhere
Price controls haven't either.
It’s not price control…
And there’s ample supply, it just comes in two week intervals
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:49 pm

#12 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
#12 wrote:Coming from someone promoting the SuperLeague, we cannot expect you to understand European and German fanbase and mentality…

There’s no socialism involved, simply because it‘s members only in the first place… unfettered capitalism, btw, has never worked anywhere
Price controls haven't either.
It’s not price control…
And there’s ample supply, it just comes in two week intervals
Then don't cry about Bayern's Sarrs ;)
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby #12 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:06 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
#12 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:[quote="#12"]Coming from someone promoting the SuperLeague, we cannot expect you to understand European and German fanbase and mentality…

There’s no socialism involved, simply because it‘s members only in the first place… unfettered capitalism, btw, has never worked anywhere
Price controls haven't either.
It’s not price control…
And there’s ample supply, it just comes in two week intervals
Then don't cry about Bayern's Sarrs ;)[/quote]1.) in the long run, not sure they‘d make more money…

2.) we have enough money for better players anyways…
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby Ottomeister87 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:44 pm

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Ottomeister87 wrote:Yeah well its pretty hard to sell more as the available 75000 if 200000 would like to go. Happens if you are this liked and successful. But by upping the prices by even 50% they would throw their own windows in. Its not only the tickets, but for most its also the drive towards and probably hotel/train or whatever. I am actually glad that a club this big, has these prices. If you look at the season card holders, those are one of the cheapest in the whole bundesliga, why? To make it affordable for everyone.

What do you think the Sudkurve would do if they would make the tickets more expensive? Right. They already voice their frustration with away tickets in the CL for example. Some ask 120+ euros for tickets alone, while they dont keep in mind, those fans have to travel to that country also.

No, i dont agree in this matter with you at all.
That's what I said, socialist mentality.


No it means not everyone is a money greedy fucking whore who even tries to exploit every penny from their own damn fans, but keep if affordable so dads with their kids or families can actually enjoy Bayern also. But i mean, why are you even worried? You never tried to buy tickets for a game anyway..
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby bastos80 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:48 pm

More important to keep a clean sheet here than to bang 5 past them imo.
Hopefully Goretzka and Lucas will be fit.
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:49 pm

Ottomeister87 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
Ottomeister87 wrote:Yeah well its pretty hard to sell more as the available 75000 if 200000 would like to go. Happens if you are this liked and successful. But by upping the prices by even 50% they would throw their own windows in. Its not only the tickets, but for most its also the drive towards and probably hotel/train or whatever. I am actually glad that a club this big, has these prices. If you look at the season card holders, those are one of the cheapest in the whole bundesliga, why? To make it affordable for everyone.

What do you think the Sudkurve would do if they would make the tickets more expensive? Right. They already voice their frustration with away tickets in the CL for example. Some ask 120+ euros for tickets alone, while they dont keep in mind, those fans have to travel to that country also.

No, i dont agree in this matter with you at all.
That's what I said, socialist mentality.


No it means not everyone is a money greedy fucking whore who even tries to exploit every penny from their own damn fans, but keep if affordable so dads with their kids or families can actually enjoy Bayern also. But i mean, why are you even worried? You never tried to buy tickets for a game anyway..


Exactly, I haven't, and also I don't own Bayern so how is the accusation of greed and prostitution even relevant?
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby Ottomeister87 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:55 pm

Because i was talking about the PL clubs.. With their horrendous ticket prices.

EDIT: Benfica only 1-1 tonight @ Estoril. With their more or less strongest line up..
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby YlonenXabi » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:47 pm

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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby Ottomeister87 » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:14 pm

Nagelsmann said that Davies has some puscular problems, Gore and Lucas should be fit but with the eye on the Saturday Freiburg games, some much playing players could be rest ( and let me guess Kimmich aint one of them )
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby bastos80 » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:17 pm

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A win here secures qualification to the KO stages. If Barcelona/Kiev draw then I believe a win would even secure first place.


Sané will most likely start after only playing 60 on the weekend and 15 last weekend.
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:14 am

Very interesting q&a with Nagelsmann
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I think that some will be rested...
Probably Davies Kimmich Leon who is not ready and probably even Muller

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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:11 pm

I think Toppmöller / JN will go for a safe line up with little changes from the game vs Union Berlin.

As for the midfield, I think that at least one of Goretzka or Kimmich should start as this could be a tricky game if we are not focused from the very beginning.

That Sabitzer - Tolisso duo doesn't seem like the best option at the moment. They've barely played together and none of them has been doing particularly well lately. I'd rather go with Kimmich/Goretzka - Tolisso.
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby bastos80 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:10 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I think Toppmöller / JN will go for a safe line up with little changes from the game vs Union Berlin.

As for the midfield, I think that at least one of Goretzka or Kimmich should start as this could be a tricky game if we are not focused from the very beginning.

That Sabitzer - Tolisso duo doesn't seem like the best option at the moment. They've barely played together and none of them has been doing particularly well lately. I'd rather go with Kimmich/Goretzka - Tolisso.


Do you actually think Topmöller had a say in the final line-up while JN was out?
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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby DRvad14 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:24 pm

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Re: [2021-11-02] Bayern Munich vs S.L. Benfica

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:49 pm

bastos80 wrote:Do you actually think Topmöller had a say in the final line-up while JN was out?


Yes, of course.

JN has the final word, but I'm sure that he asked Toppmöller regadring many individual aspects from the training sessions. After all Dino is the one physically present in those.

And I guess that JN would also prefer to field a safer line up knowing that he won't be there to correct things. At least that would be the smartest thing to do IMO

So yeah, I'm more than sure that our line ups would have been different in the last 2 games had JN been with the team. And even if he will be there tonight, I still think he will go with a safer line up without too many changes
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