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[2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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FC Dynamo Kyiv will win
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Total votes : 7

Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby Ottomeister87 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:12 pm

Man guys stop fucking whining about the line up, dont see any of you coaching a pro club ( except in your imaginations on a forum ).

Nagelsmann said Sabitzer still has to find his way ( and i cant blame him since they waited till almost the last day so he had no real time to practise with the team, same goes with his injury he brought with him) Musiala picked up a light injury last week, he will get his minutes this season. Dont overdramatize everything every game. :coffee:
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:15 pm

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ramsej84 wrote:@MUTU
Re Musiala I agree with the coach , we can't burn him... This way he will be more thirsty...
As for giving him some time for Mueller I agree ...

Messi and Ronaldo played regularly at his age and they turned out just fine. Musiala who has better numbers than both Messi and Ronaldo combined at his age is being protected. From what exactly? The way I see it a big club will guarantee him a place in the XI and he will not even look back.


Just recently Nagelsmann said there's a lot of stress on his body, which is why he rested him completely against Bochum. That was after only around 300 minutes in total. After that, he also picked up an injury.
There's still a few notable areas he has to improve. He doesn't seem to have the lungs for 90 minutes, let alone a game every 3 days. His playstyle is also still very raw, definitely needs to improve his passing. Not sure how you can't see that. He's very effective yes, but one part of the truth is also that he was always very fresh when he got those numbers. No point in playing him when he isn't. So don't exaggerate. You sound ridiculous.

Not having lungs for 90 minutes is a ridiculous excuse. It would be better to play Musiala for 60 minutes and then play with 10 men for half an hour than play 90 minutes with Gnabry/Coman. If you start the player, when he's tired you just sub him out. When you sub him in he typically has half an hour or less on the pitch. The player clearly deserves more minutes than he's getting. I don't understand how you don't see that.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:20 pm

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MUTU wrote:Messi and Ronaldo played regularly at his age and they turned out just fine. Musiala who has better numbers than both Messi and Ronaldo combined at his age is being protected. From what exactly? The way I see it a big club will guarantee him a place in the XI and he will not even look back.


Just recently Nagelsmann said there's a lot of stress on his body, which is why he rested him completely against Bochum. That was after only around 300 minutes in total. After that, he also picked up an injury.
There's still a few notable areas he has to improve. He doesn't seem to have the lungs for 90 minutes, let alone a game every 3 days. His playstyle is also still very raw, definitely needs to improve his passing. Not sure how you can't see that. He's very effective yes, but one part of the truth is also that he was always very fresh when he got those numbers. No point in playing him when he isn't. So don't exaggerate. You sound ridiculous.

Not having lungs for 90 minutes is a ridiculous excuse. It would be better to play Musiala for 60 minutes and then play with 10 men for half an hour than play 90 minutes with Gnabry/Coman. If you start the player, when he's tired you just sub him out. When you sub him in he typically has half an hour or less on the pitch. The player clearly deserves more minutes than he's getting. I don't understand how you don't see that.


It's not an excuse. It's pretty normal for a coach to build his starting XI around players who he can actually rely on to go 90 minutes when there is some level of performance density. Your opinion about Gnabry in comparison to Musiala is cleary biased. You act like Musiala is Messi and Gnabry is Lingard level, so no point in argueing with you any further.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:25 pm

No, I think current Musiala is better than current Messi.
7 G+A in 316 minutes played. 2 G+A/90.
Messi has 1 G+A in 280 minutes played. 0.32 G+A/90, a SIXTH of Musiala.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby vtotheinay » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:33 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:59 pm

Wtf their RB has no vowels in his surname.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:35 pm

So unlucky Sané
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:41 pm

Is that you, Flick tactics?
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby Evan van Essen » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:52 pm

I fcking love lucas! Hell i fcking love bayern!!!

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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby Evan van Essen » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:57 pm

Tbh i think everybody has been playing well. The worst player in the pitch for us is probably gnabry. But i guess that has to do with the fact that he needs to keep the width on the right because we dont have a davies for rb. Which i think is a shame, cause gnabry more in a more free role and more in the half space like sane seems to me like it would benefit him.

Lucas and upa are a true blessing.

Loved the crowd screaming leroy leroy leroy. To show him we appreciate his effords.

My main question is how do u think we could get gnabry more involved in the play? Seems to me we mostly attack over the left because of sane + davies there. Thats one of the reasons i think we need a new rb so we are able to also attack more of the right side.

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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby sherpthederp » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm

Sané’s darting runs into the middle are comically good
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm

Maybe if Lamptey comes back to his self after a nine month absence with hamstring inj
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:07 pm

MUTU wrote:
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MUTU wrote:What more does Musiala need to do to earn a place in the starting lineup? It seems like adding numbers to his age is the only thing holding him back.

I'd say he should not just bench Gnabry but also Mueller if needs be. It must be frustrating being in his position. His stats are some 6x higher than Messi's at the same age but the coach still doesn't trust him.


How do you extrapolate the coach not trusting him from Musiala not being an undisputed starter yet?

Because with his numbers he should be the next player after Lewandowski in the XI.
Sorry, but Müller always plays. And that's not under discussion.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby sherpthederp » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:15 pm

Upa is just pure class, he and Lucas are quickly forming a brick wall in the back
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:19 pm

Something I can never understand...
Why do players drink from bottles belonging to the opponents?
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