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[2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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FC Dynamo Kyiv will win
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Total votes : 7

Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby vtotheinay » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:45 pm

stanisic hasn't gotten any starts since he announced he was gonna represent croatia :shock:

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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:47 pm

vtotheinay wrote:stanisic hasn't gotten any starts since he announced he was gonna represent croatia :shock:

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He was a little overhyped to my taste anyways.
Basically Pavard but not tainted with a crappy season yet.

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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:50 pm

Suele starting when Pavard is suspended for the next BuLi

Sabitzer made the biggest mistake of his life....

Three RBs on the bench...
What a farce
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:55 pm

What more does Musiala need to do to earn a place in the starting lineup? It seems like adding numbers to his age is the only thing holding him back.

I'd say he should not just bench Gnabry but also Mueller if needs be. It must be frustrating being in his position. His stats are some 6x higher than Messi's at the same age but the coach still doesn't trust him.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:56 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Suele starting when Pavard is suspended for the next BuLi

Sabitzer made the biggest mistake of his life....

Three RBs on the bench...
What a farce


Nagelsmann is letting the best XI gain rhythm before Frankfurt and Leverkusen.
Nothing wrong with that. Especially with benching Pavard.
Altough I would've liked to see Sabitzer.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:56 pm

MUTU wrote:What more does Musiala need to do to earn a place in the starting lineup? It seems like adding numbers to his age is the only thing holding him back.

I'd say he should not just bench Gnabry but also Mueller if needs be. It must be frustrating being in his position. His stats are some 6x higher than Messi's at the same age but the coach still doesn't trust him.


How do you extrapolate the coach not trusting him from Musiala not being an undisputed starter yet?
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:58 pm

@MUTU
Re Musiala I agree with the coach , we can't burn him... This way he will be more thirsty...
As for giving him some time for Mueller I agree ...
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:58 pm

bastos80 wrote:
MUTU wrote:What more does Musiala need to do to earn a place in the starting lineup? It seems like adding numbers to his age is the only thing holding him back.

I'd say he should not just bench Gnabry but also Mueller if needs be. It must be frustrating being in his position. His stats are some 6x higher than Messi's at the same age but the coach still doesn't trust him.


How do you extrapolate the coach not trusting him from Musiala not being an undisputed starter yet?

Because with his numbers he should be the next player after Lewandowski in the XI.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:59 pm

MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:
MUTU wrote:What more does Musiala need to do to earn a place in the starting lineup? It seems like adding numbers to his age is the only thing holding him back.

I'd say he should not just bench Gnabry but also Mueller if needs be. It must be frustrating being in his position. His stats are some 6x higher than Messi's at the same age but the coach still doesn't trust him.


How do you extrapolate the coach not trusting him from Musiala not being an undisputed starter yet?

Because with his numbers he should be the next player after Lewandowski in the XI.


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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby CiriacoS » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:59 pm

Rocca should get minutes today after not being in the squad for 2 games. Its only fair to give him at least a chance.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:02 pm

ramsej84 wrote:@MUTU
Re Musiala I agree with the coach , we can't burn him... This way he will be more thirsty...
As for giving him some time for Mueller I agree ...

Messi and Ronaldo played regularly at his age and they turned out just fine. Musiala who has better numbers than both Messi and Ronaldo combined at his age is being protected. From what exactly? The way I see it a big club will guarantee him a place in the XI and he will not even look back.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:05 pm

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:@MUTU
Re Musiala I agree with the coach , we can't burn him... This way he will be more thirsty...
As for giving him some time for Mueller I agree ...

Messi and Ronaldo played regularly at his age and they turned out just fine. Musiala who has better numbers than both Messi and Ronaldo combined at his age is being protected. From what exactly? The way I see it a big club will guarantee him a place in the XI and he will not even look back.


Just recently Nagelsmann said there's a lot of stress on his body, which is why he rested him completely against Bochum. That was after only around 300 minutes in total. After that, he also picked up an injury.
There's still a few notable areas he has to improve. He doesn't seem to have the lungs for 90 minutes, let alone a game every 3 days. His playstyle is also still very raw, definitely needs to improve his passing. Not sure how you can't see that. He's very effective yes, but one part of the truth is also that he was always very fresh when he got those numbers. No point in playing him when he isn't. So don't exaggerate. You sound ridiculous.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby zozon » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:05 pm

OK, Julian can start Sabitzer in April and May, when Kimmich and Goretzka are dead from all the games until then. And when Sabitzer has no clue or game experience at Bayern.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:08 pm

ramsej84 wrote:@MUTU
Re Musiala I agree with the coach , we can't burn him... This way he will be more thirsty...
As for giving him some time for Mueller I agree ...

Also using this argument you think we shouldn't buy Wirtz? I mean he's going to be burned out, no? God forbid an 18 year old kicks a ball.
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Re: [2021-09-29] Bayern Munich vs Dynamo Kyiv

Postby bastos80 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:11 pm

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:@MUTU
Re Musiala I agree with the coach , we can't burn him... This way he will be more thirsty...
As for giving him some time for Mueller I agree ...

Also using this argument you think we shouldn't buy Wirtz? I mean he's going to be burned out, no? God forbid an 18 year old kicks a ball.


That's why we have a medical team that regularly runs test.
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