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[2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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FK Crvena zvezda will win
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Total votes : 9

Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:02 pm

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YlonenXabi wrote:Coutinho hasn't assisted or scored so far, but look at how deep he is playing during the build up. That gives Thiago more freedom and frees up space on the wings as he attracts defenders.


Don't you know ?
Unless you don't score or assist, it dosn't matter !
Rakitic is better midfielder than Kante, because he's scoring and assisting more. :mrgreen: =D>

The truth is we are scoring more and playing better with Mueller on the pitch as opposed to Coutinho on the pitch. That's a fact so far.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby Dumbledore7 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:02 pm

It’s true that goals and assists don’t mean everything. On the contrary, in my opinion they have very little meaning.

Still, Coutinho’s useless. If he were good, he’d be playing for....Barcelona.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby #12 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:08 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:It’s true that goals and assists don’t mean everything. On the contrary, in my opinion they have very little meaning.

Still, Coutinho’s useless. If he were good, he’d be playing for....Barcelona.


Well in that case I'd rather have had less meaning in 2012, 2010 and 99
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby Dumbledore7 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:09 pm

#12 wrote:
Dumbledore7 wrote:It’s true that goals and assists don’t mean everything. On the contrary, in my opinion they have very little meaning.

Still, Coutinho’s useless. If he were good, he’d be playing for....Barcelona.


Well in that case I'd rather have had less meaning in 2012, 2010 and 99

Why do you try so hard to be a moron? The amount of effort you put in is unbelievable.

Goals and assists in the context of evaluating players. Jesus, use your brain.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:12 pm

We're comparing #10s, DD7. If the discussion was goalkeepers, I'd agree with you.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby #12 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:13 pm

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#12 wrote:
Dumbledore7 wrote:It’s true that goals and assists don’t mean everything. On the contrary, in my opinion they have very little meaning.

Still, Coutinho’s useless. If he were good, he’d be playing for....Barcelona.


Well in that case I'd rather have had less meaning in 2012, 2010 and 99

Why do you try so hard to be a moron? The amount of effort you put in is unbelievable.

Goals and assists in the context of evaluating players. Jesus, use your brain.


Still...

Of course they’re important in some way - and they become more important the more advanced a player plays...

Now if he would play two key passes that lead to an assist every game, maybe... But you cannot have an impact on any game as an offensive player if you’re never involved in anything leading to a goal...
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby MUTU » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:22 pm

It's simple: he has the technique but not the efficiency. He is the reverse Mueller.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby Dumbledore7 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:23 pm

#12 wrote:Now if he would play two key passes that lead to an assist every game, maybe... But you cannot have an impact on any game as an offensive player if you’re never involved in anything leading to a goal...

A keeper can have more involvement in a goal than a striker, but G+A don’t tell you that and that’s why I’m against using them for measurement.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:27 pm

Lol! Coutinho hasn't even played more than a handful of matches in a Bayern shirt and the verdict has already been made?! :lol:
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby IsiahRashad » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:49 pm

I'm sorry for you guys.

There is a big contrast between the people staying behind Müller and the people staying behind Coutinho. And it's simple. The difference is that (I'm talking about myself now), I have no problem admitting when one or the other plays better against someone. And as you see, I always enjoy the good play from Müller as well.

The difference is that I CANNOT call that someone is "finished", just after playing 184 minutes for our club. And this after great game from him. I don't saw 1 comment from the Müller "lovers" saying "Bravo" to Coutinho, despite him playing a deeper role, controlling the game well, creating couple of chances, completing 4 dribbles, scored a beaty(but from offside) and hitting the bar once.

But it's either black or white for yall. Only the scoring matters, nothing else. Müller "owns" him, because he scored. And these are comments not only from today. This is what I call the "parochialism".

Keep the tunnel vision, I'm not saying shit about this topic anymore, neither responding to anything related to it.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby Fénix » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:54 pm

^Svaka čast! Gut gesagt! :cheers:
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby Awax » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:55 pm

Well especially that Coutinho drops deep and participate in going forward. Mueller plays at the number 10 position but he isn't one, he's a second striker, that's why he's more involved in direct actions. Aaaand add the fact that the players around him are way more used to play with him than with Coutinho. It's a senseless debate.
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby #12 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:07 pm

It is not... I'm not saying Coutinho is finished but drooling over a player that hasn’t had any serious impact on a game since our coach’s name was still Jupp Heynckes is not exactly objective either...
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:07 pm

MUTU wrote:Mueller 4-0 Coutinho.
And perfect prediction for me 8)

The moment he scored ramsej told me MUTU is already writing about how he got one over Coutinho. Glad to see we weren't wrong. :lol:
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Re: [2019-09-18] Bayern Munich vs Crvena zvezda

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:08 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
#12 wrote:
Dumbledore7 wrote:It’s true that goals and assists don’t mean everything. On the contrary, in my opinion they have very little meaning.

Still, Coutinho’s useless. If he were good, he’d be playing for....Barcelona.


Well in that case I'd rather have had less meaning in 2012, 2010 and 99

Why do you try so hard to be a moron? The amount of effort you put in is unbelievable.

Goals and assists in the context of evaluating players. Jesus, use your brain.
Dude, your original statement was just plain stupid (no offense intended). Of course goals and assists mean (a lot). They don't mean everything, but they obviously mean a lot. It's dumb to claim otherwise.

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