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2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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How will Bayern do in the 2020/21 Champions League?

Only reach the Quarter-Finals
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Only reach the Semi-Finals
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Reach the Finals and Win
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83%
Reach the Finals but Lose
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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:03 am

Wow. This morning I said Juve will surely be drawn with BMG
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:07 am

T4L10N wrote:So we are getting either Porto, Lazio, Atalanta, Sevilla or Barca. Easier the path, better, even though we never had that kind of luck in any of our winning campaigns as far as I remember.

Well, that's a bit debatable, I guess. While Chelsea did improve somewhat, when we drew them they were probably the easiest draw and we all wanted them.

It's also why I'm a bit hesitant about Barca, although if the injury situation isn't bad I don't expect us to have trouble.
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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby Oggy121 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:23 am


Anyone can explain to me how to calculate this probability? I have tried but cannot calculate, may be needed to program to calculate this
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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby MUTU » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:29 am

Oggy121 wrote:Anyone can explain to me how to calculate this probability? I have tried but cannot calculate, may be needed to program to calculate this

Well, that would be one hell of a long explanation :\
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby T4L10N » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:41 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
T4L10N wrote:So we are getting either Porto, Lazio, Atalanta, Sevilla or Barca. Easier the path, better, even though we never had that kind of luck in any of our winning campaigns as far as I remember.

Well, that's a bit debatable, I guess. While Chelsea did improve somewhat, when we drew them they were probably the easiest draw and we all wanted them.

It's also why I'm a bit hesitant about Barca, although if the injury situation isn't bad I don't expect us to have trouble.


I went as far as 01 season when we drew 2 of the best teams at that time in MU (1/8) and RM (1/4). In 2013 we had Juve and Barca (even though we demolished them 4-0 and 7-0 overall, it doesnt mean either of them were remotely weak). and this year, after 1/8 everybody said that it was the hardest draw for the finalist from our side where we had City, RM, Barca, Juve, us and Chelsea (at least before all the matches were played).

The pattern I see is that people tend to see things differently after the outcome (nobody said Barca was that weak before the 8-2) and its not our fault City choked against Lyon (dont get me wrong, Lyon was very good as well).

As for current Barca, I agree and while it may seem tempting to play and improve our record against them, you never know when the club of that status improves and beats you. I remember Milan 2006 when they struggled against Schalke in group stage and narrowly went through if you remember the 6th game but then demolished us like we never had any chance out there. I know its different situation now but you never know. easier the draw its better, simple as that (just my opinion).
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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby MUTU » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:51 am


Nope. MisterChip's maths has been debunked time and time again, and yet his (incorrect) calculations remain popular.

These are the real probabilities :)

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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Fénix » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:54 am

Now it's time for B. Mönchengladbach to repeast HAPOEL, Ajax and Tottenham.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:07 pm

@T4L10N: I misunderstood you. I somehow thought you meant specifically this round. Yeah, the paths in general have usually been challenging for us.
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Re: [2020-12-14] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby T4L10N » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:14 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:@T4L10N: I misunderstood you. I somehow thought you meant specifically this round. Yeah, the paths in general have usually been challenging for us.


Yeah I didnt specify correctly, I meant tournament path not the 1/8 only. I dont understand why but everytime we got easier path, we somehow managed to choke in latter rounds. Hope it wont be the case this time.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:48 pm

This is golden. Turns out that despite the walkout for a perceived racist remark 'black' by the Romanian fourth official which led to a walkout by PSG and Istanbul, it was in fact the Turks who were the bigger racists because an Istanbul player told the 4th official "in my country Romanians are gypsies", a derogatory term unlike 'black'. They had earlier referred to the referee's Romanian nationality in English whilst protesting a booking.

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