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2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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How will Bayern do in the 2020/21 Champions League?

Only reach the Quarter-Finals
2
11%
Only reach the Semi-Finals
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Reach the Finals and Win
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74%
Reach the Finals but Lose
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:35 am

Lazio's Penalty Against Borussia Dortmund Branded One Of The Worst Refereeing Decisions In Champions League History [source]
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:07 am

MUTU wrote:
Lazio's Penalty Against Borussia Dortmund Branded One Of The Worst Refereeing Decisions In Champions League History [source]

who was the ref?
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby nm462272 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:39 am

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
Lazio's Penalty Against Borussia Dortmund Branded One Of The Worst Refereeing Decisions In Champions League History [source]

who was the ref?


Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:50 am

nm462272 wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
Lazio's Penalty Against Borussia Dortmund Branded One Of The Worst Refereeing Decisions In Champions League History [source]

who was the ref?


Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)


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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:13 pm

IMO if VAR is allowed then it should also be possible to retroactively cancel the goal after the game.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:50 pm

Looks like its gonna be an interesting final match day in several groups.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:14 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:IMO if VAR is allowed then it should also be possible to retroactively cancel the goal after the game.

That would be too unfair though. Imagine you park the bus and waste time instead of trying to score because you're winning, but after the match they cancel one of your goals because of a ref mistake and now can't get a time machine and attack more.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby PunkCapitalist » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:29 pm

MUTU wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:IMO if VAR is allowed then it should also be possible to retroactively cancel the goal after the game.

That would be too unfair though. Imagine you park the bus and waste time instead of trying to score because you're winning, but after the match they cancel one of your goals because of a ref mistake and now can't get a time machine and attack more.
Agree. But VAR should be used to ban Lahoz and other egregiously bad referees (Kassai) from ever referring again.

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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:08 pm

MUTU wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:IMO if VAR is allowed then it should also be possible to retroactively cancel the goal after the game.

That would be too unfair though. Imagine you park the bus and waste time instead of trying to score because you're winning, but after the match they cancel one of your goals because of a ref mistake and now can't get a time machine and attack more.
Yes, there are too many complications for it to work in practice. As we know that goal would have influenced the rest of the game. Such clear and indisputable situations (see also our games vs Real under Heynckes) are so infuriating though.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby longeleven » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:30 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
MUTU wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:IMO if VAR is allowed then it should also be possible to retroactively cancel the goal after the game.

That would be too unfair though. Imagine you park the bus and waste time instead of trying to score because you're winning, but after the match they cancel one of your goals because of a ref mistake and now can't get a time machine and attack more.
Yes, there are too many complications for it to work in practice. As we know that goal would have influenced the rest of the game. Such clear and indisputable situations (see also our games vs Real under Heynckes) are so infuriating though.


Just give each time the right to ask checking VAR (like tennis) and everything will be fine. If referee still try to bend the truth, medias and fans could end their career.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:13 am

Yes they could do that but to be effective and catch episodes not just the ones you happened to see with your naked eye, there would be a representative of each team in the VAR room equipped with their own equipment to independently be able to check episodes and raise a flag.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:13 am

Pre var there were mistakes , some genuine some malicious... but now football has been reduced to a video game.... plus we are still seeing dubious decisions.
I am not totally against this tool but the way it is being used it is ruining the sport.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:53 am

Why has football been reduced to a video game? I don’t understand the comparison.
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:14 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Why has football been reduced to a video game? I don’t understand the comparison.

I don't know, maybe Haaland's robotic movements and interviews?
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Re: 2020/21 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:19 am

MUTU wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Why has football been reduced to a video game? I don’t understand the comparison.

I don't know, maybe Haaland's robotic movements and interviews?

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thing is that they are giving nano cms off sides as if it is on pes or fifa
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