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2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:52 pm

ramsej84 wrote:If this formula of final eight works out, it should be considered for the future
Do you mean one leg?
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby tuscanybayern » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:53 pm

Fénix wrote:It's going to work out, but it's not the point to remove 2-3 matches in the K.O. stage.

You have forgotten that all teams want to play at home in front of their fans once this pandemic is over.


we are quite used to ramsej saying things that make no sense...
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:55 pm

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ramsej84 wrote:If this formula of final eight works out, it should be considered for the future
Do you mean one leg?
Yes one leg.... sudden death.
A mini tournament
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:56 pm

3 wins 3 wins 3 wins...

It’s official guys. If we win the CL we will be the first team ever to have won every game.

I think we will also equal the most wins in a CL season if we win the next one.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:56 pm

tuscanybayern wrote:
Fénix wrote:It's going to work out, but it's not the point to remove 2-3 matches in the K.O. stage.

You have forgotten that all teams want to play at home in front of their fans once this pandemic is over.


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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:57 pm

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FCBayernMunchen wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:If this formula of final eight works out, it should be considered for the future
Do you mean one leg?
Yes one leg.... sudden death.
A mini tournament
I admit I’m looking forward to it but it shouldn’t be at the expense of the CL we know and love. Maybe a tournament that happens every 2 or 4 years that is just a KO.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:00 pm

I'd still take the two-leg format, but I love the timeboxed Champions League after the end of each league. Maybe keep the group stages through the league season, then knockout tournament after. Hoping it stays.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby tuscanybayern » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:05 pm

If we keep this format everyone lose...

much more expensive for the fans

less games and money for UEFA

less TV money and ticket sales for football clubs

some clubs will just park the bus to get to the penalties

never going to happen
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:08 pm

tuscanybayern wrote:If we keep this format everyone lose...

much more expensive for the fans

less games and money for UEFA

less TV money and ticket sales for football clubs

some clubs will just park the bus to get to the penalties

never going to happen
No, actually it’s MORE money for UEFA…
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Fénix » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:13 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:I'd still take the two-leg format, but I love the timeboxed Champions League after the end of each league. Maybe keep the group stages through the league season, then knockout tournament after. Hoping it stays.

We are going to watch the regular format next season.

We should have been watching the start of 2020/2021 right now, CL & EL qualifying round for the last 3-4 weeks and we are still in 20/21 and we missed the Euro 20'. :D

Not normal at all. :roll:
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:14 pm

Two large groups (ten each)
Top four qualify for the QF
Maybe the home and away can be kept instead of just one ko match
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby tuscanybayern » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:20 pm

#12 wrote:
tuscanybayern wrote:If we keep this format everyone lose...

much more expensive for the fans

less games and money for UEFA

less TV money and ticket sales for football clubs

some clubs will just park the bus to get to the penalties

never going to happen
No, actually it’s MORE money for UEFA…


mmm why do you think so?
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:05 pm

tuscanybayern wrote:
#12 wrote:
tuscanybayern wrote:If we keep this format everyone lose...

much more expensive for the fans

less games and money for UEFA

less TV money and ticket sales for football clubs

some clubs will just park the bus to get to the penalties

never going to happen
No, actually it’s MORE money for UEFA…


mmm why do you think so?
Why do you think the final - as opposed to the rest of the competition - is played in a neutral venue in the first place? Where about half if the - immensely expensive - tickets are sold by UEFA directly? Why do you think Blatter spoke of being an NPO so often?

Big news: FIFA and UEFA generate money through their competitions... And when they play in neutral venues, they usually pay none of the costs but take most of the income... Which then consequently is not revenue, but income...
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby r10 » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:00 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Zwayer go and suck
I can't imagine bribes-taker Zweyer can referee UEFA matches :evil: :x #-o
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby tuscanybayern » Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:20 pm

#12 wrote:
tuscanybayern wrote:
#12 wrote:No, actually it’s MORE money for UEFA…


mmm why do you think so?
Why do you think the final - as opposed to the rest of the competition - is played in a neutral venue in the first place? Where about half if the - immensely expensive - tickets are sold by UEFA directly? Why do you think Blatter spoke of being an NPO so often?

Big news: FIFA and UEFA generate money through their competitions... And when they play in neutral venues, they usually pay none of the costs but take most of the income... Which then consequently is not revenue, but income...


I understand your point but I have to disagree. Ticket sales are not comparable to revenues from selling broadcasting rights worldwide. See UEFA's income statement https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/OfficialDocument/uefaorg/Finance/02/63/95/00/2639500_DOWNLOAD.pdf

With this format you would have 6 games less...and we are not talking about Bate Borisov - Olimpiakos. For this year we are talking about:

- Bayern vs Barcelona
- Manchester City vs Lyon (could have been Juventus)
- PSG vs Leipzig
- Atletico Madrid vs Atalanta
- Bayern/Barcelona vs Manchester City
- let's say PSG vs Atletico Madrid

these are all matches with high TV shares. Even non-football supporters would watch Bayern - Barcelona on TV. Next year it could be Real Madrid - Barcelona or Real Madrid - Atletico etc.

Besides, we all know that most finals in the last decade have been boring. I'd argue that KO games would be less exciting and attractive compared to the standard UCL format.

This will lower UEFA's revenues from tv rights and I highly doubt that ticket sales would compensate it.
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