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2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Dumbledore7 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:32 pm

Lol this is getting interesting.

Vote: is this a malicious intent to prevent a clear goal-scoring opportunity or not? :mrgreen:

Man United’s Rafael tried to stop West Brom’s Saido Berahino from scoring by screaming [source]

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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:52 pm

Probably neymar was already crying that is why he said this

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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby aterford » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:49 pm

Something that should be added: just back in January, the Head of UEFA Referees spoke about how there will be stricter rules for handball in the Champions League - he went on to say:

"The big challenge is the position of the arm. When the arm is totally out of the body or above the shoulder it should be penalized. If the defender makes his body bigger in order to block the ball it's not fair.

It's different if the defender is challenging a shot or playing the ball and it rebounds. But if he's attempting to block a cross or a shot on goal and the player spreads his body then it's a handball."

And we should also note that things will likely get even more strict next season - IFAB (International Football Association Board, who make/manage/interpret the Laws of the Game) have elected to introduce some new changes/interpretations that will take effect next season, starting June 1. One such relevant change:

"We've changed things to say that the body has a certain silhouette. If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette, then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball. Of course, players should be allowed to have their arms by their side as it's their natural silhouette"
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:13 pm

Soon they'll force footballers to wear straitjackets :lol:
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby sherpthederp » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:20 pm

MUTU wrote:Soon they'll force footballers to wear straitjackets :lol:

I don’t see any difference between this and Marcelo’s handball off of Kimmich last year. He jumps out and effectively makes his torso twice as wide by hanging his arm out like a starfish. Turns his head AFTER seeing where the shot was going, not before.
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:37 pm

sherpthederp wrote:
MUTU wrote:Soon they'll force footballers to wear straitjackets :lol:

I don’t see any difference between this and Marcelo’s handball off of Kimmich last year. He jumps out and effectively makes his torso twice as wide by hanging his arm out like a starfish. Turns his head AFTER seeing where the shot was going, not before.

The difference is that Marcelo's hand was sticking out perpendicular to his body in a very unnatural position.

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Here's another angle, I'm sure you'll agree:
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby sherpthederp » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:44 pm

MUTU wrote:
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MUTU wrote:Soon they'll force footballers to wear straitjackets :lol:

I don’t see any difference between this and Marcelo’s handball off of Kimmich last year. He jumps out and effectively makes his torso twice as wide by hanging his arm out like a starfish. Turns his head AFTER seeing where the shot was going, not before.

The difference is that Marcelo's hand was sticking out perpendicular to his body in a very unnatural position.

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Here's another angle, I'm sure you'll agree:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I gotta say after seeing that second photo, you’ve swayed my opinion lol
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby tuscanybayern » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:47 pm

All this controversy reminded me how Inter won the tie against Barcelona because of a goal disallowed to Keita

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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:24 am

MUTU wrote:The difference is that Marcelo's hand was sticking out perpendicular to his body in a very unnatural position.

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Here's another angle, I'm sure you'll agree:
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This image pisses all over the “it’s a clear handball” arguments. I believe that perpendicular hands or hands at a 45 degree angle (or greater) are egregious enough to merit a punitive spot kick. No way Kimpembe’s “handball” meet this threshold of egregiousness.

^Marcelo here^

Boateng in 2016 Image

and Ramos last year against PSG Image

These are instances of clear outstretched arms in unnatural positions or done intentionally to become bigger.

If Lyon beat Barca or fluke an away goal qualification, Liverpool knock Bayern out and Atletico kick out Juventus and PSG was on course to eliminate Manchester United. A QF without Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve and Man Utd would be a financial nightmare for UEFA. Therefore, I suspect corruption at play here and behind Manchester United’s unfair qualification to the QF stage.


MUTU wrote:Soon they'll force footballers to wear straitjackets :lol:

Yes absolutely. The way penalties are being handed out like candy nowadays, soon enough defenders will need to wear straight jackets or handcuffs to stop this madness.
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:33 pm

Godin is said to be doubtful ...

Greenwood _ the 17 year old made his debut against PSG - but have a closer look at his printed nr. https://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/c ... 902a.shtml
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:51 pm

There will be some changes to the ucl qf draws... (same as 2010/11)

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleagu ... 89810.html

How will the draws work?

There is no seeding or country protection, with any restrictions to be announced ahead of the draw. The semi-final draw will follow the quarter-final draw, meaning teams will know their potential paths to the final.
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:54 pm

Var explained...on uefa.com

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The VAR, after checking various different angles available to him, recommended to the referee an on-field review following the penalty area incident.

Given that the referee did not recognise the incident clearly during live play (referred to as serious missed incident in the VAR protocol) an on-field review was conducted.

Following the on-field review, the referee confirmed that the distance that the ball travelled was not short and the impact could therefore not be unexpected. The defender’s arm was not close to the body, which made the defender’s body bigger thus resulting in the ball being stopped from travelling in the direction of the goal. The referee, therefore, awarded a penalty kick. 
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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:33 am

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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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Re: 2018/19 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:49 am

how close to reality is this ?
3-5-2 with Caceres --- ? I don't believe it!
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