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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:55 pm

There were easily 5 teams better than us last year... And there ARE a lot of ifs and buts in your argument... Cause Vidal would’ve hit the showers WAYYYY earlier if not for that ref...
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Isabella » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:24 pm

#12 wrote:There were easily 5 teams better than us last year... And there ARE a lot of ifs and buts in your argument... Cause Vidal would’ve hit the showers WAYYYY earlier if not for that ref...

Well but Casemiro would have been in the shower before Vidal (and that was the true reason for which Vidal was not carded earlier)

And five team last year?
Real, Barca, Juve and what? Atletico? Real had zero trouble to destroy Atletico...

And your argoument about Real being so superior had also a lot of buts and ifs
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2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:33 pm

Well, for me we were nowhere close to seriously challenge last year... And we are not (yet) this year... We might’ve been before, but since I knew Guardiola was gonna **** it up - and I factor in all variables - you could also make an argument we weren’t...
There’s no if or but in acknowledging who CLEARLY was the better team... Again, not a question for someone who doesn’t wear red and white glasses...
They also destroyed Atlético 4-1 in a final and yet we were unable to best them...

We‘ve been to shit in away games, bottom line... If you want to win CL you habe to be able to score away... Not by debatable penalty and lucky own goal...
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Isabella » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:20 pm

With Guardiola yes, but not with Ancelotti....
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:05 pm

We lost to Atlético and RM... Hardly evidence for sich a bold claim...
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:01 am

Our own players are not optimistic about winning the CL this season.

I’d say Barcelona, Man City and PSG/Real (maybe even Liverpool because they play well against top teams) are bigger favorites than Bayern at this point in time.
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby klinsmann » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:31 am

Porto should learn from Swansea & West Brom on how to beat Liverpoo.

I'm rooting for Porto to beat the ancient club!

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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby 1911 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:17 pm

Real can’t win without an asterisk after the titles (offsides goals, 12th man refs, etc.)
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:09 am

Nice to see Lewandowski share my biggest concern and corroborate why I am never ecstatic when our Bundesliga rivals drop points.

BERLIN, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) -- Bayern Munich's star striker Robert Lewandowski is concerned his side's negligent performance in the German Bundesliga could have a negative effect on the club's performance in the Champions League.

"It does not matter how big the lead is, [what's] important is the mental and physical state of the team. We all know it is not easy to play the national league with only 80 to 90 percent and then perform at 100 percent in the Champions League," the 29-year-old Polish international said.

Despite the Bavarians ruling the Bundesliga with a 16-point lead over their nearest rivals Bayer Leverkusen, it is time to ring the bell, Lewandowski says. "We all know what happened in the Champions League [in the last few] years when we ended up as national champion many points ahead of the [nearest] opponents," the striker stressed.

Lewandowski said the years after the team won the treble in 2013 were far from perfect. It caused deep disappointment not to have made it to the final again. "It does not help to be 16, 20 or 25 points ahead in the league; [what's] important is to be ready for the shoot-out in the Champions League," Lewandowski said. He also demanded a more consistent performance in the Bundesliga to be prepared for the challenging tasks in the Champions League.

Bayern coach Jupp Heynckes still rejects congratulations for the 2018 German title; others are much more open to good wishes. "I don't expect us to spoil the thing and looking at our quality I don't think it is going to be a nail-biter in the end," German international Thomas Mueller emphasized.

But like Lewandowski, Mueller demanded full concentration and everybody keeping their feet on the ground ahead of the Champions League challenge. "We have to fight sloppiness with all our energy," Mueller emphasized.

Heynckes said he is aware of the difficulties his team has had to deal with. "We will continue with our work based on full concentration. And we will not allow anyone to lean back and not give 100 percent," the 72-year-old commented.

Heynckes said conceding five goals in three games is not up to his standards. The 2013 treble winner demanded improvement regarding the team's defensive performance. "We need to be organized better in front of our goal and keep clean sheets. This is inevitable when looking at the challenges waiting in the Champions League and the bigger clubs we have to face," Heynckes stressed.

In the last 16 of the 2017/2018 Champions League campaign, the Bavarians are facing the Turkish side Besiktas Istanbul on February 20th and March 14th.

After beating TSG Hoffenheim 5-2 last weekend, Heynckes was not satisfied with the team's performance. "We allowed too much space for the opponents in midfield," said goalkeeper Sven Ulreich. Mueller called the 16th victory this season "far from ideal".

Heynckes warned his stars to give 100 percent "as only the performance counts not names and success of the past." Otherwise, stars could well find themselves sidelined. Heynckes has changed the team's lineup in several Bundesliga games. "We are not worried as we have enough quality in the squad, but we have to prove that quality every week in every game," Heynckes said.

Heynckes renewed his decision to leave the club at the end of the season despite an offer from the club. [source]
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:27 pm

^ That’s alright but what are Bayern supposed to do? Deliberately drop points to make the BL “competitive”? Bayern are not responsible for the other clubs drawing/losing their games.

Also it's good that this year Bayern’s toughest opponents in the CL (Barcelona, Man City and PSG) are all running away with their respective league titles so far. So all of them too should, at least in theory, have the same problem of complacency.
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:08 am

I dislike PSG and how they have become big but I really hope they can put the final nail in Zidane’s coffin. Bayern were the last team to have won three successive European Cups and Real Madrid is possibly the last team I want to take that record away from us. Really want PSG to eliminate Real.

Barcelona vs Chelsea is gonna be a massacre I think. Juventus are doing better recently and I think they should be able to beat Spurs. Hope Porto can follow the tactics that smaller teams in the PL have used against Klopp and win on aggregate against Liverpool.
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:50 am

America USA wrote:I dislike PSG and how they have become big but I really hope they can put the final nail in Zidane’s coffin. Bayern were the last team to have won three successive European Cups and Real Madrid is possibly the last team I want to take that record away from us. Really want PSG to eliminate Real.

Barcelona vs Chelsea is gonna be a massacre I think. Juventus are doing better recently and I think they should be able to beat Spurs. Hope Porto can follow the tactics that smaller teams in the PL have used against Klopp and win on aggregate against Liverpool.
I prefer Real winning over psg... imo Real can be dealt with

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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby aterford » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:21 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
America USA wrote:I dislike PSG and how they have become big but I really hope they can put the final nail in Zidane’s coffin. Bayern were the last team to have won three successive European Cups and Real Madrid is possibly the last team I want to take that record away from us. Really want PSG to eliminate Real.

Barcelona vs Chelsea is gonna be a massacre I think. Juventus are doing better recently and I think they should be able to beat Spurs. Hope Porto can follow the tactics that smaller teams in the PL have used against Klopp and win on aggregate against Liverpool.
I prefer Real winning over psg... imo Real can be dealt with

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PSG are more than beatable too....the longer Real is in the competition the more 'luck' they tend to see go their way....
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:42 pm

Yes Real are beatable on present form but I still don’t want to face them. They seem to have our number at the Allianz. Plus Spanish teams are favoured too much by UEFA referees. I'd rather face PSG again, who are not invincible. With that being said I hope that the winner of PSG/Real gets either Barcelona or Manchester City next.
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 pm

May be the German members here can answer this question of mine. Why doesn’t the BL/DFB/DFL take care of German clubs involved in the CL? Bayern play Wolfsburg away on Saturday next week but then play Besiktas on Tuesday. If this was Spain/Italy/Portugal/France the fixture would be advanced to Friday to give the players one more day to prepare or rest.

Why so? Why not protect your only team left in the CL especially when Germany has dropped two places in the UEFA coefficients :?:
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