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2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby Lukas » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:13 am

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Lukas wrote:Congratulations to all the "English" clubs who qualified, with their German, Portuguese, Argentinian, Italian and Spanish coaches, and 90% foreign squads. Really making English football great


I think English football are actually trying new ideas. Look at the U-19/17 sides of the ENG NTs, and Spurs, City and Chelsea youths. It is hard for the English football people to realize they have been left behind and take measure as a pursuer. It seems they have accepted it. I appreciate their mindset.

However, the overconfident atmosphere created by the English media may still be harmful for English football.


The success of the England youth teams is a positive sign, and good luck to them. They are all on the books of clubs like Liverpool, City and Chelsea, but the chances of them playing regular first team football for these clubs are unlikely when they can just go out and spend 50m on some South American or whatever. So they are then just sold or loaned out to lower PL clubs or lower league clubs where the standard of football isn't as high and they learn to play the typical English way. Admittedly that isn't the fault of the elite clubs. English football as a whole needs to change its approach to playing the game
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:31 am

Lukas wrote:Even watching a neutral match (RM v BVB) you can't escape the Brit media hype about their five teams in the knockout stage and how it could finally be the PL's year again. They've just had a five minute debate about which PL team has the best chance while ignoring the game going on in front of them :twisted:

You even get other clubs' fans saying they "want the English teams to do well". Why? They're rival clubs who suck money out of the game lower down the English league system so smaller clubs can never progress! A strong PL top 4/5/6, whatever it is, is bad for English football as a whole as it means the rich get richer still so they can keep buying expensive players from abroad and neglect young English players.

Here in Malta I keep reading we will have 2 English teams in the final.

Anyone willing to take up a bet against me that there will be 0-1 English teams in the semi final?
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:32 am

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ramsej84 wrote:7-0 for Pool....
I don't wish to face Mane Salah Firmino Coutinho


I think quite the contrary. Big wins can give them confidence, but overconfidence can be lethal. We are completely a different team now, compared to the ridiculous pre-season Bayern. Pool's overconfidence, if grown to a state they think we are Shakhtar level, will be their undoing. Their defense cannot handle Lewa and his friends.


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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:50 am

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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:55 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
Lukas wrote:Even watching a neutral match (RM v BVB) you can't escape the Brit media hype about their five teams in the knockout stage and how it could finally be the PL's year again. They've just had a five minute debate about which PL team has the best chance while ignoring the game going on in front of them :twisted:

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Here in Malta I keep reading we will have 2 English teams in the final.

Anyone willing to take up a bet against me that there will be 0-1 English teams in the semi final?


last time they had five (I stand to be corrected) the final was played between Man U and Chelsea
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:32 pm

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Lukas wrote:A big cheer somewhere in the stadium for Besiktas's late winning goal. I thought their fans were banned...
Did't you know that 1/3 germany is Turk?

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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:48 pm

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Quite low odds for the small team to win CL ... :coffee:
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:33 pm

We‘ve been having good odds for years ;)

Small team is kind of a stretch though...
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby America USA » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:22 pm

Barcelona have started to bother me a bit. Messi has been excellent since the season started, Suarez is scoring again and the Dortmund import too is doing fine. Ter Stegen is doing a decent job in goal too and Pique/Umtiti is a very good CB pairing. This new coach of theirs has made them more solid defensively. Bayern would need to be at full strength if we are to face them in the CL. Although at the start of the season I wanted Barca in Bayern’s group now I want to avoid them at least until the semifinals. Hopefully they get City or PSG/Real next.

The only saving grace is that Coutinho cannot play in the CL for them.
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Re: 2017/18 UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:17 pm

#12 wrote:We‘ve been having good odds for years ;)


True, and you can't deny the fact that we've been true contenders in the last few years. Just like this year :wink:
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