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[2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:30 pm

VfL Wolfsburg will win
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It will end in a draw
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Bayern Munich will win
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:27 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:Can't stand Ribery anymore.
Rudy really need to pick up his game or he will be watching all Bayern games from the sidelines.
I'm not sure how many times Wagner played with the ball - probably around 7-8.
Süle is lucky to play with a player like Martinez - he is well covered on the left side.

Average Tolisso,Bernat,Robben and Martinez,the team is really missing the creativity of James.

Thiago was the best player in the first 45.

The rotation is not an excuse against Wolfsburg.
Agree on every point. I'd put more emphasis on our attack being completely toothless though. Midfield is not functional because Rudy is playing badly, Tolisso never ever has an influence on MF and Thiago is playing too loosely; he needs to play deeper and dictate play. Not liking this 433. We should sub Müller for Tolisso or Rudy and go 4231.

I'm gonna go ahead and also admit that I don't like Süle much. He is too massive, not agile enough. Modern defending requires agile CBs, I don't see him becoming WC. Can't see him defending again the likes of Messi, Neymar or Mbappe effectively.

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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:28 pm

Today we suck, we really suck!

Terrible reaction from Bernat, low-level defender kind of reaction, the opponent positions himself great in front of you and for 2secs before the cross you don't challenge him,you don't push to dislocate him from his position, you just bodycheck him INSIDE the box of the GK. It's just basics, terrible defending.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby America USA » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:28 pm

kingbayern wrote:wagner and rudy are pretty bad....and rafiniha is not making runs to support robben...sgh..at least thiago is back


I won't blame Wagner for this display, he is a CF and he has had no decent service yet. This team is not creating shit, so I really don’t think he is the one who needs to be blamed for Bayern losing right now!

ramsej84 wrote:Didavi was an coming back from an off side position...
Still Bernat marking isn't any better than mine...


For Wolfsburg’s goal none of their players was offside. See the replays, it was onside :(
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:34 pm

Rudy's rating for the first 45 is 5.9.

This is the second worst for ANY Bayern player for the whole season. The worst performance is 5.86 - Rudy against Gladbach.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:34 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Didavi was an coming back from an off side position...

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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:36 pm

Heynckes needs to refresh the team until the 60'
Ideally Rudy and one of the wingers out - Coman and one of James/Lewy in

If nothing changes until the 60th minute, I'd like those subs to get in
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:36 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:Rudy's rating for the first 45 is 5.9.

This is the second worst for ANY Bayern player for the whole season. The worst performance is 5.86 - Rudy against Gladbach.

SUBSTITUTION...


Rudy off...

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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby tflags » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:36 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:Rudy's rating for the first 45 is 5.9.

This is the second worst for ANY Bayern player for the whole season. The worst performance is 5.86 - Rudy against Gladbach.

He's not getting a better rating in the 2H it looks.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby Outis » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:37 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and also admit that I don't like Süle much. He is too massive, not agile enough. Modern defending requires agile CBs, I don't see him becoming WC. Can't see him defending again the likes of Messi, Neymar or Mbappe effectively.


I don't know, at Olympics in 2016 Sule impressed me containing Neymar... I hope he improves his game, because since 2016 I liked this player and was happy when he joined Bayern.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:38 pm

Tolisso really cockblocked Rudy there.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:38 pm

MUTU wrote:
IsiahRashad wrote:Rudy's rating for the first 45 is 5.9.

This is the second worst for ANY Bayern player for the whole season. The worst performance is 5.86 - Rudy against Gladbach.

SUBSTITUTION...


Rudy off...

Spoiler: show
... Wudy in :mrgreen:

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Wudy ? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Did you see how he passed the ball to Origi ? I'm having Alonso's flashbacks. :|
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby tflags » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:39 pm

Was Rudy blocking Tolisso's shot? Man whatf?
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby wholagun » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:39 pm

America USA wrote:
kingbayern wrote:wagner and rudy are pretty bad....and rafiniha is not making runs to support robben...sgh..at least thiago is back


I won't blame Wagner for this display, he is a CF and he has had no decent service yet. This team is not creating shit, so I really don’t think he is the one who needs to be blamed for Bayern losing right now!

ramsej84 wrote:Didavi was an coming back from an off side position...
Still Bernat marking isn't any better than mine...


For Wolfsburg’s goal none of their players was offside. See the replays, it was onside :(



Agreed. CF are double edge. You step away from your role to make a play and ball comes to centre and you're out of position it's your fault. You stay in centre waiting to pounce - it's you're fault for not playing the ball enough.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:40 pm

tflags wrote:Was Rudy blocking Tolisso's shot? Man whatf?

It was the other way round IMO. Rudy was well positioned to shoot and Tolisso came in from a worse position and controlled it.
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Re: [2018-02-17] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:41 pm

Bernat and Ribery on the left is not working. Substitutions are needed.
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