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[2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

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VfB Stuttgart will win
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Bayern Munich will win
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby MaCk0y » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:38 pm

It was a clear penalty IMO. Even though it was unintentional, it's his fault he miscalculated the shot for the ball. Maybe indirect free kick inside the box should apply in this case instead. I want to see more of those. :)
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:41 pm

#26 Made other crucial saves... one in the first half and some two others before the penalty save

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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby Element » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:42 pm

Poor display again.

When our team has lots of options (which is mostly seen in open counter attacks), they do not know which option to take leading to poor choices and results just like Alaba's counter and James 1-on-1

James was doing well till stoppage time: He f***ed up 2 counter attacks in a row: in the first one Brekalo tackled and dispossessed him and in the second one he could not decide what to do with the ball facing the goalkeeper in that 1on1 so he missed it (expected that miss) and Lewandowski did not do much better there.

Tolisso proved me right again, as a midfielder he is not better than Andreas Ottl: no good passing, no game control, no good movements and no closing open gaps. In the matches he does not score in, he is completely useless.

One Question: Why or How on gods earth does Rafinha get so many ball contacts?!!!!

Penalty or no penalty: I do not know to be honest.

2 positives though:

1-SVEN "F***ing" ULREICH: At this moment, BeIN sports analysts are discussing the possibility and how realistic it is seeing Ulreich in the world cup if Neuer does not recover on time

2-Kimmich's defending was Awesome in the last few minutes
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:45 pm

Our last three wins...
0-1
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby Element » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:51 pm

ramsej84 wrote:0-1
1-0
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Mourinho would be proud :P
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby rthebest » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:59 pm

MUTU wrote:
MaCk0y wrote:Classic Bayern. Making lives difficult for themselves. Seriously, two 1v1 vs the keeper and no goal.
I wasn't even excited seeing James running at the goalkeeper. I'm so used to seeing us miss chances like that that I expected him too.


if it was Robben the I would get excited.
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby rthebest » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:14 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I think it's a clear penalty cause he barely hit the ball and he kicked the other guys leg. He just miscalculated

Had he kicked the ball away, that would not have been a penalty IMO

ramsej84 wrote:Suele has to be more intelligent sometimes he acts as if he was Shrek...


:lol:

I agree. Sometimes I really like Suele and sometimes he looks just not very clever


He is young. Remember Boateng at this age.
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:27 pm

MaCk0y wrote:It was a clear penalty IMO. Even though it was unintentional, it's his fault he miscalculated the shot for the ball. Maybe indirect free kick inside the box should apply in this case instead. I want to see more of those. :)
Lol you're obsessed with them. Where does it come from, Andersson?
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby MaCk0y » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:32 pm

MUTU wrote:
MaCk0y wrote:It was a clear penalty IMO. Even though it was unintentional, it's his fault he miscalculated the shot for the ball. Maybe indirect free kick inside the box should apply in this case instead. I want to see more of those. :)
Lol you're obsessed with them. Where does it come from, Andersson?
Hehe. Who is Andersson? You know what I would like to see in my lifetime? An indirect freekick few centimeters away from the goal line. The keeper picks up a back pass almost on the goal line. Haha. Can there be a wall?
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:37 pm

Patrik Andersson is the goalscorer of the most famous freekick inside the box of all time. Shame on you for not knowing this! Every Schalke fan still has nightmares.
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby Nemepp » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:38 pm

Another complicated match. Bayern is struggling to make the most of the goal 30 yards into the game.

Lewandowski got way too much and played number 10.

In the end we are doing well thanks to the rescue of Sven (the God) on the penalty.


The winter break will surely do good to the players! :coffee:
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:50 pm

rthebest wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I think it's a clear penalty cause he barely hit the ball and he kicked the other guys leg. He just miscalculated

Had he kicked the ball away, that would not have been a penalty IMO

ramsej84 wrote:Suele has to be more intelligent sometimes he acts as if he was Shrek...


:lol:

I agree. Sometimes I really like Suele and sometimes he looks just not very clever


He is young. Remember Boateng at this age.


No offence to you,but this reminds me to say what i see every **** time:


When Süle is playing bad on the pitch,people just say-yeah,he is still way too young,he'll get better.
Tolisso,who 3 months ago was at his (Süle's) age of 22,when he make some stupid thing on the pitch-he is shit,he cannot play,not good for Bayern.

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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby Manchu » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:18 pm

MaCk0y wrote:It was a clear penalty IMO. Even though it was unintentional, it's his fault he miscalculated the shot for the ball. Maybe indirect free kick inside the box should apply in this case instead. I want to see more of those. :)

The problem with that idea is that Sule clearly got contact on the ball well before he hit the man. The fact that he miss-kicked the ball is entirely immaterial. The rule is if you get the ball before the man, not if you get the ball before the man and have it go exactly where you intended. That would be absurd.
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby MaCk0y » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:22 pm

Manchu wrote:
MaCk0y wrote:It was a clear penalty IMO. Even though it was unintentional, it's his fault he miscalculated the shot for the ball. Maybe indirect free kick inside the box should apply in this case instead. I want to see more of those. :)

The problem with that idea is that Sule clearly got contact on the ball well before he hit the man. The fact that he miss-kicked the ball is entirely immaterial. The rule is if you get the ball before the man, not if you get the ball before the man and have it go exactly where you intended. That would be absurd.
There are many times when a player gets the ball first and then the player in a tackle and is whistled for a foul which I don't agree with most of the time. Sule didn't really get the ball. Anyway the referee looked at the video himself and judged it as a foul.
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Re: [2017-12-16] VfB Stuttgart vs Bayern Munich

Postby MaCk0y » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:32 pm

I compare this foul with one when a player is going to kick the ball but an opponent comes from behind, nudges the ball and the player kicks his leg instead of the ball unintentionally. It's a foul even though he wasn't even aware of the opponent. IIRC, this season we conceded a penalty like that.
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