I know.PunkCapitalist wrote:Hahaha my point is that Goretzka never ever contributes anything away from the opposition's box.FCBayernMunchen wrote:PunkCapitalist wrote:Box-to-box midfielders usually contribute on both boxes...
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He did much better in the 25 minutes he got in the second half. It seemed to me that he was playing further up then, like a CAM almost. Not sure if he was meant to be playing there all along but it didn’t look like it in the first half.
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He did his job well yesterday. He’s not as noticeable as he used to be in RB but he did his job. I think he will end up becoming one of those great midfielders who are crucial to the team but are often not appreciated enough, like Busquets.Alexander wrote:We got the three points and that is the important thing. The rust was obvious. I have not been a fan of Kimmich in midfield but I think he is getting better and better, still not totally convinced though.
FCBayernMunchen wrote:He did his job well yesterday. He’s not as noticeable as he used to be in RB but he did his job. I think he will end up becoming one of those great midfielders who are crucial to the team but are often not appreciated enough, like Busquets.Alexander wrote:We got the three points and that is the important thing. The rust was obvious. I have not been a fan of Kimmich in midfield but I think he is getting better and better, still not totally convinced though.
I wouldn’t necessarily agree... the skills he developed as a defender are bound to help him.Fénix wrote:The biggest Kimmich's problem is that he lost 4 years being played out of his position(14/15, 17/18, 18/19). Only under Ancelotti he was a regular midfielder and how could not his development suffer after such a long time.
Schweinsteiger had suffered for 7 years before finally someone put him in central midfield as a pro.
In the 80s: "It's too much of that hard rock music!“PunkCapitalist wrote:ramsej84 wrote:Davies is not his self....
I think it is cause of too much Insta
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Fénix wrote:You are missing the point here from Kimmich's point of view; he played out of his position for 4 years under Guardiola, Heynckes and Kovač and has always wanted to play there where he plays this season and in 2016/2017.
That's why he has started to play last and this season once again in midfield under Kovač, now Flick and this remains permanent until Bayern doesn't lose 6-7 players due to injury and has to cover holes in the last line until they recover.
The same thing would be right now if he were played as a striker or a winger, he would have said the same thing about learning and helping him as a player.
Lewandowski said the same for Jürgen Klopp when he was used behind Barrios as no. 10 in some matches, didn't quite like that idea and decision, but the Pole actually learned a lot from that position to be what he is - a striker, not AM.
longeleven wrote:Fénix wrote:You are missing the point here from Kimmich's point of view; he played out of his position for 4 years under Guardiola, Heynckes and Kovač and has always wanted to play there where he plays this season and in 2016/2017.
That's why he has started to play last and this season once again in midfield under Kovač, now Flick and this remains permanent until Bayern doesn't lose 6-7 players due to injury and has to cover holes in the last line until they recover.
The same thing would be right now if he were played as a striker or a winger, he would have said the same thing about learning and helping him as a player.
Lewandowski said the same for Jürgen Klopp when he was used behind Barrios as no. 10 in some matches, didn't quite like that idea and decision, but the Pole actually learned a lot from that position to be what he is - a striker, not AM.
For Kimmich, I don't think he lacks of vision or something like that for playing midfield. He is clever and smart enough to play there, his passing is dope as well.
The only thing he lacks for the defensive midfield is muscle, he is a bit weak compare to another midfield within the team, not name any top tier around the world.
He is aggressive enough to fight or throwing a dirty punch if needed but he needs more muscle and power for it.
I remember the times he tried to stop Poulsen by tackling and pulling shirt but RB player just keep running. Kimmich was lying there watching opponent face to face with CBs, that was so pathetic.
Ramsej es not even old though#12 wrote:In the 80s: "It's too much of that hard rock music!“PunkCapitalist wrote:ramsej84 wrote:Davies is not his self....
I think it is cause of too much Insta
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In the 90s: "It's too much money!"
In the 2000s: "It’s too much internet!"
In the 2010s: "It's too much Social Media!"
Basically always: "Too many women!"
Old people have always complained about these things...
PunkCapitalist wrote:Ramsej es not even old though
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