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[2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:30 pm

FC Schalke 04 will win
1
20%
It will end in a draw
2
40%
Bayern Munich will win
2
40%
 
Total votes : 5

Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby sherpthederp » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:04 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I really want to see Coutinho in this system. Hopefully replacing Müller =P~

Swap Tolisso to the right and drop Coutinho in left. Tolisso looks lost on the left and doesn’t seem to link there as well. Although usually on the right he plays off of Kimmich so I wonder how he’d link with Pavard
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:15 pm

Man our kit is so **** world class
Kovac OUT!!!
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby sherpthederp » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:17 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:Man our kit is so **** world class

Best kit in a couple years now, although I did actually like the 16/17 collared kit.
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:18 pm

--------Coman - Lewandowski
Alaba - Coutinho - Kimmich - Gnabry
------------------ Thiago
---------- Lucas - Süle - Pavard
------------------- Neuer

Is what I'd like to see with this system.
----------- Lewandowski ---------
Gnabry ----- Havertz ------ Sané
--------- Thiago --- Tolisso -------
Alaba --- Lucas -- Süle --- Kimmich
---------------- Neuer -----------------

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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:19 pm

bastos80 wrote:--------Coman - Lewandowski
Alaba - Coutinho - Kimmich - Gnabry
------------------ Thiago
---------- Lucas - Süle - Pavard
------------------- Neuer

Is what I'd like to see with this system.

Surely Coman on the wing and Gnabry up front?

But yes, otherwise I agree. That's the best lineup we can possibly play with this squad.
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:20 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
bastos80 wrote:--------Coman - Lewandowski
Alaba - Coutinho - Kimmich - Gnabry
------------------ Thiago
---------- Lucas - Süle - Pavard
------------------- Neuer

Is what I'd like to see with this system.

Surely Coman on the wing and Gnabry up front?

But yes, otherwise I agree. That's the best lineup we can possibly play with this squad.


I'm just going by how we're playing today and that's with Gnabry as a right wing back.
----------- Lewandowski ---------
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--------- Thiago --- Tolisso -------
Alaba --- Lucas -- Süle --- Kimmich
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby munchen99 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:20 pm

bastos80 wrote:--------Coman - Lewandowski
Alaba - Coutinho - Kimmich - Gnabry
------------------ Thiago
---------- Lucas - Süle - Pavard
------------------- Neuer

Is what I'd like to see with this system.


Not really a big fan of leaving Thiago so isolated.


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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:23 pm

I see a very good tactical movement here.

Kimmich is being pressed by 2 or even 3 Schalke players at times when we play from the back. So what we are doing is shifting to a back 3 in defense with Alaba moving to a more central role where he is usually free. 3-2-4-1 in possession and then we go back to a back 4 when defending.

It makes perfect sense because

1- Pavard can play both RB and CB
2- Alaba is originally a CM
3- Lucas can play both CB and LB

And it gets even better because at times we keep the back 4 with Alaba playing wide as LB. So basically Schalke have no clue what to do.



Last year we would have been screwed because Kovac would have had no answer for that Kimmich man marking. But today Flick came up with a very good and effective solution



We just lack some quality (Thiago, Coutinho...) but the tactics have been spot on so far in the game.
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:25 pm

munchen99 wrote:
bastos80 wrote:--------Coman - Lewandowski
Alaba - Coutinho - Kimmich - Gnabry
------------------ Thiago
---------- Lucas - Süle - Pavard
------------------- Neuer

Is what I'd like to see with this system.


Not really a big fan of leaving Thiago so isolated.


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Just put him where Kimmich is playing today. This is just how it looks on paper....
Pull back Alaba and Gnabry a bit if that looks better.
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Gnabry ----- Havertz ------ Sané
--------- Thiago --- Tolisso -------
Alaba --- Lucas -- Süle --- Kimmich
---------------- Neuer -----------------

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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:30 pm

I don't really like Kimmich in midfield. His best asset is providing crosses and 2v1s on the right wing.
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:30 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I don't really like Kimmich in midfield. His best asset is providing crosses and 2v1s on the right wing.



He'll do well where Müller is playing today.
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:38 pm

HOLY **** SHIT LEWANDOWSKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Kovac OUT!!!
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:38 pm

Wunderbar
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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby munchen99 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:38 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I see a very good tactical movement here.

Kimmich is being pressed by 2 or even 3 Schalke players at times when we play from the back. So what we are doing is shifting to a back 3 in defense with Alaba moving to a more central role where he is usually free. 3-2-4-1 in possession and then we go back to a back 4 when defending.

It makes perfect sense because

1- Pavard can play both RB and CB
2- Alaba is originally a CM
3- Lucas can play both CB and LB

And it gets even better because at times we keep the back 4 with Alaba playing wide as LB. So basically Schalke have no clue what to do.



Last year we would have been screwed because Kovac would have had no answer for that Kimmich man marking. But today Flick came up with a very good and effective solution



We just lack some quality (Thiago, Coutinho...) but the tactics have been spot on so far in the game.


Let’s not give all the credit to Flick while placing all the blame on Kovac.

We aren’t connecting the defensive to attacking phases very well though. Need muller tolliso to drop in and out.

And lewa brilliance again...


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Re: [2019-08-24] FC Schalke 04 vs Bayern Munich

Postby sherpthederp » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:38 pm

bastos80 wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I don't really like Kimmich in midfield. His best asset is providing crosses and 2v1s on the right wing.



He'll do well where Müller is playing today.

Kimmich’s biggest problem in midfield is his risk assessment on passes. Playing him more advanced helps mitigate that. If Schalke weren’t terrible he’d have given away at least 3 dangerous counterattacks already
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