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[2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

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Borussia Mönchengladbach will win
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Bayern Munich will win
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Evan van Essen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:20 am

For all the bad this game showed, atleast sane did well imo. Even with a shit rb like pavard he was active and tried to open up the enemy with dribbles. On the otherhand nothing was created over the left costa did absolutely nothing, not defensively nor attacking. I think with a good rb sane can be even way more effective and dangerous.

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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:40 am

Evan van Essen wrote:For all the bad this game showed, atleast sane did well imo. Even with a shit rb like pavard he was active and tried to open up the enemy with dribbles. On the otherhand nothing was created over the left costa did absolutely nothing, not defensively nor attacking. I think with a good rb sane can be even way more effective and dangerous.

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But Kalle said that he is happy with Costa, on and off the pitch...
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:15 am

bmguy wrote:Bayern should consider to buy Neuhaus to replace Tolisso. The guy has more tackles than most of our players in this match.
Dude... I had more...
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:19 am

Evan van Essen wrote:For all the bad this game showed, atleast sane did well imo. Even with a shit rb like pavard he was active and tried to open up the enemy with dribbles. On the otherhand nothing was created over the left costa did absolutely nothing, not defensively nor attacking. I think with a good rb sane can be even way more effective and dangerous.

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You have a weird definition of good!

He was okay, this time around he showed up with the very basics... But that doesn’t make this festival of turnovers good...
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:21 am

ramsej84 wrote:I have to thank this comment...
Spot on.
Thank you for finally someone is acknowledging that davies has been bad since the ucl final (mentioned it myself yest)
Is he a one season wonder? Guess So

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Or the success has gone up to his head...

That's a stretch. I don't think he is one season wonder and I really pray he ain't because it's a shame.
In the UCL final he was by far the worst player but we didn't get punished. He continued in bad form and then came a serious injury. The rollercoaster he went in his personal and professional life is very very difficult to handle plus his first injury. The talent is there and the Bayern environment is the perfect place to come back. I believe he will come back sooner or later.

As I said, many things were there months ago but Flick's decision was that's temporary. He was wrong and he needs to take some actions. Alaba is terrible, Pavard is terrible, Douglas is terrible. Kimmich just came back so did Davies. Sule is overweight and Boateng can't keep up with that high-line when our midfield gets exposed just like that and our pressing has decreased since the Atletico match. So he basically just sees all these malfunctions and he does nothing. Lucas Hernandez is by far our best defender this season and healthy but he mocks him. We play without a proper DMF and he still plays that high-line defense with Boateng as a CB...

Finally we lost some points and we got thrashed, now Flick has to take some actions and I'm sure he will otherwise the board should have a talk with him because some things are looking very strange.
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Fénix » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:41 am

Whoever can watch our CL first K.O. round(2 legs) and matches against Barcelona, Lyon and PSG, you'll see how this Bayern has nothing to do with that one, especially our field display.

We look like a barely inflated balloon, far from how it looked like 5-6 months ago.
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:45 am

Fénix wrote:Whoever can watch our CL first K.O. round(2 legs) and matches against Barcelona, Lyon and PSG, you'll see how this Bayern has nothing to do with that one, especially our field display.

We look like a barely inflated balloon, far from how it looked like 5-6 months ago.
Meh... The Lyon game was much like it...

Just that the teams now care about scoring...
We are more than lucky sitting on so many points, we deserved to lose more games...

Only three teams in Bundesliga conceded more goals than us
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Fénix » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:59 am

Klinsmann's Bayern in 2008/2009 conceded 24 goals in the first 17 matchdays of Hinrunde before the winter break.

Flick's Bayern has 2 matches to play and reach the Hinrunde end, ie 3 conceded goals away from breaking the negative record.

Back then we were Herbstmeister.
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[2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:07 pm

Is it our worst ever/in modern times?

Edit: Wait I don’t understand what you mean by “3 conceded goals away”. We’ve conceded 24 already. Are you looking at a table which didn’t add last night’s 3 yet?
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Fénix » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:12 pm



FC Bayern stellt negativen Vereinsrekord auf - defensiv noch schlechter als unter Klinsmann

Der FC Bayern gewinnt auch gegen den FSV Mainz 05, geht aber in der Bundesliga zum achten Mal in Folge mit 0:1 in Rückstand - und stellt damit einen negativen Vereinsrekord auf. [source]


So far the only German media that has focused for the last 2 1/2 months on the Bayern's huge defensive problems and being unable to keep the clean sheet.
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:13 pm

Fénix wrote:Klinsmann's Bayern in 2008/2009 conceded 24 goals in the first 17 matchdays of Hinrunde before the winter break.

Flick's Bayern has 2 matches to play and reach the Hinrunde end, ie 3 conceded goals away from breaking the negative record.

Back then we were Herbstmeister.
Huh? We already conceded 24?! Also, I thought we were worse with Klinsmann...
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:15 pm

Fénix wrote:


FC Bayern stellt negativen Vereinsrekord auf - defensiv noch schlechter als unter Klinsmann

Der FC Bayern gewinnt auch gegen den FSV Mainz 05, geht aber in der Bundesliga zum achten Mal in Folge mit 0:1 in Rückstand - und stellt damit einen negativen Vereinsrekord auf. [source]


So far the only German media that has focused for the last 2 1/2 months on the Bayern's huge defensive problems and being unable to keep the clean sheet.
Nah, there's more... The blind guy who lives behind the moon has realized our defense is unworthy of being called professional...
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Fénix » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:21 pm

You two are right!!! Well done! My mistake to pick the wrong number. That is our GD what I posted (+22). :lol: :oops: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

WIth 24 conceded goals we have equalized Klinsmann's 2008/2009 Hinrunde result. After 17 matchdays 24 conceded goals back then and 1st on the table. Now we have played 2 matches less and already have 24 conceded goals.

2 more to play and we shall break the record in the them for sure and have the worst record ever, at least in the last 20 years with the fact that this is the Treble team and one of the 3 best ever in the entire Bayern's history.

We can check 2006/2007 and 2010/2011 Hinrunde, 2 seasons in which we were really bad, finished 4th and 3rd, our worst seasons along with 2001/2002(3rd place).
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:25 pm

We'll pulverize it... I am absolutely sure we will have 28+ conceded after md17...
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Re: [2021-01-08] Borussia M'gladbach vs Bayern Munich

Postby Fénix » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:32 pm

Seasons when we weren't champions:

2001/2002 - 11 conceded goals in the first 17 matchdays - finished the season 3rd
2003/2004 - 19 CG - finished 2nd
2006/2007 - 19 CG - finished 4th
2008/2009 - 24 CG - finished 2nd
2010/2011 - 20 CG - finished 3rd
2011/2012 - 10 CG - finished 2nd

Feel free and correct me if I miscounted something. :wink:


edit: Let's add Louis van Gaal and Niko Kovač's seasons when our defensive game was also far from being great, but we won the Bundesliga title.

2009/2010 - 15 conceded goals
2018/2019 - 20 conceded goals
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