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Javi Martinez is a hero and legend but I prefer someone else to play cb. He is a liability.

Few things:
1. 4141 is nothing i ever wanna see again.
2. Neuer is a god.
3. Goertzka did really well as 1 man midfielder, even adapted his style of play to work his role better. Not something i would have thought he was able to do a year ago.
4. I dont want to see javi start ever even if he is a legend.
5. Multiple players underpreforming today just a few names: muller, musiala, costa, pavard.
6. Musiala looks hella ackward at times.
7. Offside line was a shitshow.

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Costa didn’t underperform...

I think Hansi was a bit over-confident with 4141, especially when Javi and Musiala started.
Spaniard can't cover that vast space and Musiala is not yet ready to start any Bundesliga game. Looked at him whenever he didn't have ball giving me head-ache.

longeleven wrote:I think Hansi was a bit over-confident with 4141, especially when Javi and Musiala started.
Spaniard can't cover that vast space and Musiala is not yet ready to start any Bundesliga game. Looked at him whenever he didn't have ball giving me head-ache.

It's why before the game I said I was sure it wouldn't be Javi as a lone midfielder and I was predicting Alaba to play there. I'm really surprised he went for it. It was always going to be a struggle like that.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:

longeleven wrote:I think Hansi was a bit over-confident with 4141, especially when Javi and Musiala started.
Spaniard can't cover that vast space and Musiala is not yet ready to start any Bundesliga game. Looked at him whenever he didn't have ball giving me head-ache.

It's why before the game I said I was sure it wouldn't be Javi as a lone midfielder and I was predicting Alaba to play there. I'm really surprised he went for it. It was always going to be a struggle like that.

Don't get why he doesn't give a chance to Roca. The supposed "german workrate" thing is a pretty bad excuse and I seriously doubt that we could have been worse at MF than what we did.

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Ya, makes no sense not to play Roca at the moment. Flick's acting like Roca is an underfed child who can't play. His stubbornness is annoying as hell at times.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:

longeleven wrote:I think Hansi was a bit over-confident with 4141, especially when Javi and Musiala started.
Spaniard can't cover that vast space and Musiala is not yet ready to start any Bundesliga game. Looked at him whenever he didn't have ball giving me head-ache.

It's why before the game I said I was sure it wouldn't be Javi as a lone midfielder and I was predicting Alaba to play there. I'm really surprised he went for it. It was always going to be a struggle like that.

If Sule were available I think Alaba would started in MF

Whenever Javi plays we get raped on counter attacks. He is simply too slow for our tactics. I remember us having the same problems during Flick's first games last season.

And if both Boateng and Javi are on the pitch then it's a recipe for disaster



Not a good performance, but hey, no need to bash the team like that

Just the thought of starting Martinez alone in midfield is a bit mind-boggling... And I'm really starting to wonder what's up with Roca, if he couldn't even get a sniff yesterday.

Also, having 5 attackers is too much - they clog up the space in the final third (since they also draw additional defenders in).

YlonenXabi wrote:Whenever Javi plays we get raped on counter attacks. He is simply too slow for our tactics. I remember us having the same problems during Flick's first games last season.

And if both Boateng and Javi are on the pitch then it's a recipe for disaster



Not a good performance, but hey, no need to bash the team like that

Who did? Me?

You can't win every game, I am well aware... But if we lose to jokes like Bremen not unluckily but deservedly, something is wrong... And yes, a draw against Bremen is a loss...

We have praised him lots and deservedly but no matter how I look at it I just can’t see any way this can’t be pinned on Flick.

And that gives me confidence. He messed up this time, but we know he usually doesn’t. No need to criticise the team or the transfers or whatever. It’s surely a one off and it says a lot that if it weren’t for that unmissable chance Choupo Moting missed we might still have won this disastrous game.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:We have praised him lots and deservedly but no matter how I look at it I just can’t see any way this can’t be pinned on Flick.

And that gives me confidence. He messed up this time, but we know he usually doesn’t. No need to criticise the team or the transfers or whatever. It’s surely a one off and it says a lot that if it weren’t for that unmissable chance Choupo Moting missed we might still have won this disastrous game.

The transfers...
Chupo Moting is a Wildebeest
Sarr is a donkey
Costa is a squirrel
Roca is a ghost

ramsej84 wrote:

FCBayernMunchen wrote:We have praised him lots and deservedly but no matter how I look at it I just can’t see any way this can’t be pinned on Flick.

And that gives me confidence. He messed up this time, but we know he usually doesn’t. No need to criticise the team or the transfers or whatever. It’s surely a one off and it says a lot that if it weren’t for that unmissable chance Choupo Moting missed we might still have won this disastrous game.

The transfers...
Chupo Moting is a Wildebeest
Sarr is a donkey
Costa is a squirrel
Roca is a ghost

Roca simply can’t be judged. His lack of playing time is on Flick, not him. He might be right in not playing him, but he might also be wrong. Or it might be neither. Davies didn’t play for 9 months and we would have looked stupid if we called him useless or a ghost.

Choupo Moting messed up yesterday but it’s unfair to judge him on that alone. He’s a CL finalist. He’s definitely not worse than what we had as backup since Wagner.

We know exactly what Costa can do. He hasn’t done it yet. Doesn’t mean he won’t eventually.

Sarr has indeed been terrible so far.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:

ramsej84 wrote:

FCBayernMunchen wrote:We have praised him lots and deservedly but no matter how I look at it I just can’t see any way this can’t be pinned on Flick.

And that gives me confidence. He messed up this time, but we know he usually doesn’t. No need to criticise the team or the transfers or whatever. It’s surely a one off and it says a lot that if it weren’t for that unmissable chance Choupo Moting missed we might still have won this disastrous game.

The transfers...
Chupo Moting is a Wildebeest
Sarr is a donkey
Costa is a squirrel
Roca is a ghost

Roca simply can’t be judged. His lack of playing time is on Flick, not him. He might be right in not playing him, but he might also be wrong. Or it might be neither. Davies didn’t play for 9 months and we would have looked stupid if we called him useless or a ghost.

Choupo Moting messed up yesterday but it’s unfair to judge him on that alone. He’s a CL finalist. He’s definitely not worse than what we had as backup since Wagner.

We know exactly what Costa can do. He hasn’t done it yet. Doesn’t mean he won’t eventually.

Sarr has indeed been terrible so far.

Costa is a joke...

And Zirkzee could’ve not scored that... I thought we signed a backup to do MORE than Zirkzee...