ramsej84 wrote:Can we just give him a chance?
Also, I won't start him vs those bastards I fear they would want to give him a welcome back beating especially since he is a former player.
ramsej84 wrote:'bastards'... childish ????
Rest assured that you will call them worse things when they start manhandling our players from the very first whistle.
That is one of the tactics to install fear and to make us lose confidence not only in the player involved but also to the whole team.
Yes give him a chance to play a meaningful game first and not those useless games for the NT.. who d f cares about the NT friendlies especially when the local champs haven't even started yet... uefa and fifa should be ashamed for staging those games and to add insult to injury only three subs were allowed instead of five!
Cause for us every game countsMUTU wrote:ramsej84 wrote:'bastards'... childish ????
Rest assured that you will call them worse things when they start manhandling our players from the very first whistle.
That is one of the tactics to install fear and to make us lose confidence not only in the player involved but also to the whole team.
Yes give him a chance to play a meaningful game first and not those useless games for the NT.. who d f cares about the NT friendlies especially when the local champs haven't even started yet... uefa and fifa should be ashamed for staging those games and to add insult to injury only three subs were allowed instead of five!
No I don't and stop your prejudices.
This is the best UEFA international tournament in terms of competitivity, not friendlies. If they were useless why were you crying at Malta losing against the Faroe Islands?
Also, what does that have to do with anything? The point is that an athlete who was able to train fully for 228 days should be able to run for 90 minutes. This has nothing to do with his performance, I'm talking purely from a physical aspect.
vtotheinay wrote:If you've never played a sport at a high level I guess it's hard to understand, but when you're out with injury for an extended period it doesn't matter how much conditioning work you do. Until you start playing games again you won't get back into full fitness. There's just nothing you can do workout wise that replicates the load your body takes playing a full match especially when you're coming off a serious injury.
MUTU wrote:vtotheinay wrote:If you've never played a sport at a high level I guess it's hard to understand, but when you're out with injury for an extended period it doesn't matter how much conditioning work you do. Until you start playing games again you won't get back into full fitness. There's just nothing you can do workout wise that replicates the load your body takes playing a full match especially when you're coming off a serious injury.
Then how come players who are out for a long time often manage to play 90 minutes in their first match back after some 10-14 days of training? I mean what, had Sané decided to retire, he wouldn't be able to go jogging for longer than 45 minutes ever, because his body is only somehow able to get fitness through matches?
What you're talking about may be true, but only from a matter of psychology not biology. In a nutshell, they would be lazy to do stuff (training) that are not the real thing (matches). But a real professional would have used the two-thirds-of-a-year injury-free period to his body's advantage.
You need much more evidence to prove to me that only unprofessionalism has led to Sané not being by far the most physically fit player in the squad.
Dude please stop the fake news... With the exception for very MINOR injuries, we NEVER have players even making the squad before training for 4-5 weeks...MUTU wrote:vtotheinay wrote:If you've never played a sport at a high level I guess it's hard to understand, but when you're out with injury for an extended period it doesn't matter how much conditioning work you do. Until you start playing games again you won't get back into full fitness. There's just nothing you can do workout wise that replicates the load your body takes playing a full match especially when you're coming off a serious injury.
Then how come players who are out for a long time often manage to play 90 minutes in their first match back after some 10-14 days of training? I mean what, had Sané decided to retire, he wouldn't be able to go jogging for longer than 45 minutes ever, because his body is only somehow able to get fitness through matches?
What you're talking about may be true, but only from a matter of psychology not biology. In a nutshell, they would be lazy to do stuff (training) that are not the real thing (matches). But a real professional would have used the two-thirds-of-a-year injury-free period to his body's advantage.
You need much more evidence to prove to me that only unprofessionalism has led to Sané not being by far the most physically fit player in the squad.
MUTU wrote:I know what you're saying as well, but you'd figure that in such a high level one would be given training exercises to replicate the stresses in a match. Also, they're always playing in training, it shouldn't be much different from a physical point of view.
Let me answer your question with one of my own: which professional footballer do you know who took this long between being back in training and being fit enough to last 90 minutes on the pitch? Because I can't think of one.
PS: do you still play basketball or are you retired now?
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