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[2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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1. FC Köln will win
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Total votes : 3

Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby icewizard » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:24 pm

MUTU wrote:
zozon wrote:Iniesta has some awful assists/goals stats, but he was the player Muller never was or will never be.

P.S You're not pissing anyone really, it looks childish and bitter.

And who's to say I don't consider Mueller superior to Iniesta? For the record, I do.


OK, i really believe this is going way too far. As much as i love Thomas Mueller, Andres Iniesta is really one of a kind, he was good at EVERYTHING, defensively he was covering properly, and offensively he was a genius, played the right pass or made the right dribble at the right time, and talking about dribble, his low centre of gravity made opponents turn crazy.

You have to be fair and objective: Iniesta is MUCH better than Mueller.
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:25 pm

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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby Fénix » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:32 pm

How were they today, dear forum?

Under they I mean: Coutinho, Perišić, Lucas, Pavard and midfielder Kimmich? :mrgreen:

Another victory, 3 points, 4 goals, 0 conceded - great match in the end, some would say. I should only focus on result on board once the final whistle is blown and that's it and comment how every player performed.

Lewandowski is our best player and the main man who literally is driving us forward last and this season. Without him, I'm sure we would be trophy-less and finish the 18/19 season with a German Super Cup and that's it.
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:35 pm

icewizard wrote:You have to be fair and objective: Iniesta is MUCH better than Mueller.


Trying to compare ANY midfielder to Iniesta in this era is just a nonsesne. It shows favoritism, and inability to understand the facts.

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And no other midfielder is even close to that. Frank Rijkaard said, "I played him as a false winger, central midfielder, deep midfielder and just behind the striker and he was always excellent."
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby Achilles » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:36 pm

Lewy watches Coutinho in training and understands the need to bring him at his best asap. Besides Lewandowski will be the one who will earn the most advantages from Coutinho's excellence.
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:01 pm

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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby zozon » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm

Yep, he adores the dude.

If he has a nice season and his teammates like him - I certainly believe he will stay beyond 2020. Teammates pushing for a teammate to stay has a way to the board.
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby Firefox1234 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:25 pm

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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby Hardrade » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:41 pm

Worst rating: Müller
Best Rating: Coutinho
(Difference: 3.7)
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Time on pitch: Müller 20 min, Cou 90
Assists: Muller 0, Cou 1
Goals: Muller 0, Cou 1
Red cards caused: Muller 0, Cou 1
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Number of arms with tattoos: Müller 0, Cou 2
Matches played for FCB since 2014: Müller 0, Cou 4

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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby DRvad14 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:11 pm

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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby MUTU » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:41 pm

zozon wrote:
MUTU wrote:Except you're being stupid now. Several people consider Mueller a supergreat player, case in point Thierry Henry who, live on TV, said Mueller is the best player in the world at a time when Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta were all playing in Spain and in their prime.

Nobody would say that about Pranjic, so stop trying to ridicule valid opinions blatantly just because you disagree.


What a retarded case in point. Stop the kneejerk.

You just described my reaction to your post.
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby longeleven » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:47 pm

icewizard wrote:
MUTU wrote:
zozon wrote:Iniesta has some awful assists/goals stats, but he was the player Muller never was or will never be.

P.S You're not pissing anyone really, it looks childish and bitter.

And who's to say I don't consider Mueller superior to Iniesta? For the record, I do.


OK, i really believe this is going way too far. As much as i love Thomas Mueller, Andres Iniesta is really one of a kind, he was good at EVERYTHING, defensively he was covering properly, and offensively he was a genius, played the right pass or made the right dribble at the right time, and talking about dribble, his low centre of gravity made opponents turn crazy.

You have to be fair and objective: Iniesta is MUCH better than Mueller.


I don't know why people keep debate about this. The only thing Mueller better than Iniesta is the number of goal in World Cup [-X

Mueller is one of a kind but if I have to pick only 1 from these 2 guys (at their prime time), absolutely Mueller has no chance to be picked. But put Mueller play along with Iniesta is one facking awesome idea :roll:
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby r10 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:08 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:Cuissanse trying too hard to do something
He played awful game, like coming from another planet (C-Liga). Hope he improves rather than goes Renato way.
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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby Firefox1234 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:25 pm

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Re: [2019-09-21] Bayern Munich vs FC Köln

Postby Ed. » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:11 am

I think people are getting distracted by the Coutinho debate. IMO, he is clearly the dose of flair and skill we needed not for the BL really, but to make an impact in a heayweight CL clash.

Anyway, the real issue I see is that a month into the season and how woefully average Gnabry has been. That's not surprising to me, he is a good bloke but won't be WC. However, I thought he would have more of an impact against the cannon fodder in the BL.
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