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[2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
7
70%
It will end in a draw
1
10%
Borussia Dortmund will win
2
20%
 
Total votes : 10

Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby #12 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:53 pm

America USA wrote:
bastos80 wrote:
America USA wrote:Have a gut feeling that today is the day Kimmich finally gets exposed for the fraud that he is in midfield.


What about Goretzka?
Imagine having the better Goretzka in your squad and still starting the least present Bayern midfielder of all times.

Goretzka was good last season and is a good midfield player. I have no reasons to doubt his abilities but I think on current form and fitness, Tolisso would’ve been the better option to start this match.

However, Starting Kimmich ahead of Thiago in midfield is blasphemous. I should’ve known not to expect much from Löw and Niko’s disciple :x


Goretzka has never been good...
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby bastos80 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:54 pm

Hey, at least we can say we have a decent bench for once, right?
Sané ---- Lewandowski ---- Gnabry
Davies - Thiago - Kimmich - Dest
Hernández -- Alaba -- Upamecano
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Achilles » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:55 pm

Clearly pushing for the Germans to take over in this phase the club is... there is no explanation for the Goretzka-Muller duo breaking through the starting XI out of nowhere just when we need wins and Kovac is gone. Not that Thiago or Coutinho are something extraordinary or close to perfection, not even close but definitely better than the German duo or at least one of them should start to give that extra thing we need unlike Muller and Goretzka who need the team to perform so they can shine.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby America USA » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:56 pm

bastos80 wrote:Hey, at least we can say we have a decent bench for once, right?

Yes Bayern will probably need that for a comeback once we find ourselves two goals down by the end of the 1st half #-o
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby bastos80 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:57 pm

America USA wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Hey, at least we can say we have a decent bench for once, right?

Yes Bayern will probably need that for a comeback once we find ourselves two goals down by the end of the 1st half #-o


That is probably the best case scenario at the moment.
Better than a lucky win/draw with this team.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby America USA » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:58 pm

Achilles wrote:Clearly pushing for the Germans to take over in this phase the club is... there is no explanation for the Goretzka-Muller duo breaking through the starting XI out of nowhere just when we need wins and Kovac is gone. Not that Thiago or Coutinho are something extraordinary or close to perfection, not even close but definitely better than the German duo or at least one of them should start to give that extra thing we need unlike Muller and Goretzka who need the team to perform so they can shine.

Starting Kimmich in midfield is the German propaganda that needs to stop first and foremost. Let the nose digging idiot try that and keep his madness contained to the NT.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby MUTU » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:00 pm

Es Muellert wieder! Thiago's choice is interesting but I think Flick wants more physicality in the middle. If only we had signed a #6.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Achilles » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:00 pm

I agree however I'd welcome the idea of Kimmich DM today against BVB if Thiago would start alongside him... Goretzka just runs vertically or uses spacing in the final third. Kimmich as the deep-lying DM against BVB is a bad idea.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby #12 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:04 pm

Achilles wrote:Clearly pushing for the Germans to take over in this phase the club is... there is no explanation for the Goretzka-Muller duo breaking through the starting XI out of nowhere just when we need wins and Kovac is gone. Not that Thiago or Coutinho are something extraordinary or close to perfection, not even close but definitely better than the German duo or at least one of them should start to give that extra thing we need unlike Muller and Goretzka who need the team to perform so they can shine.


Look I get Thiago, I agree... But Müller's been far better than Coutinho...
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby bastos80 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:05 pm

MUTU wrote:Es Muellert wieder! Thiago's choice is interesting but I think Flick wants more physicality in the middle. If only we had signed a #6.


Physicality, for what? Defending? Thiago's defensive numbers better than Kimmich's by the way.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:07 pm

Achilles wrote:Thiago AND Coutinho out for second -important- game in a row ?

I understand the back four considering the circumstances but this is too much. Not that I care for Thiago or Coutinho both to me are underwhelming but it's not that we have better alternatives with Goretzka & Muller.


I don’t understand the back four either. It’s just so easy to keep the same lineup but put Kimmich at RB, Pavard at CB and Javi in midfield and have all 3 players playing in positions where they are better.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby America USA » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:13 pm

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Achilles wrote:Thiago AND Coutinho out for second -important- game in a row ?

I understand the back four considering the circumstances but this is too much. Not that I care for Thiago or Coutinho both to me are underwhelming but it's not that we have better alternatives with Goretzka & Muller.


I don’t understand the back four either. It’s just so easy to keep the same lineup but put Kimmich at RB, Pavard at CB and Javi in midfield and have all 3 players playing in positions where they are better.

Alaba is a mediocre CB. Kimmich’s stubbornness to play in the midfield is causing us to become weaker at RB,CB, DM and possibly even LB.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:17 pm

America USA wrote:Alaba is a mediocre CB. Kimmich’s stubbornness to play in the midfield is causing us to become weaker at RB,CB, DM and possibly even LB.

As far as Alaba goes there currently isn't much choice though and Davies is doing well at least.
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby DRvad14 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:18 pm

#12 wrote:
Look I get Thiago, I agree... But Müller's been far better than Coutinho...

whats this petty obessive hate on coutino u have yes he hasnt delivered or preformed for price tag or not but must u drag it on . you even said both are substandard which they have been .
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Re: [2019-11-09] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby America USA » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:19 pm

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America USA wrote:Alaba is a mediocre CB. Kimmich’s stubbornness to play in the midfield is causing us to become weaker at RB,CB, DM and possibly even LB.

As far as Alaba goes there currently isn't much choice though and Davies is doing well at least.

There is a choice. Play Kimmich at RB. Pavard goes in as CB and Alaba plays as LB.

Davies joins the attack as the LW (Coman gets dropped to the Bench) and Thiago comes back in midfield. Playing Kimmich at #6 creates more problems than it is meant to solve.
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