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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby IsiahRashad » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:29 pm



xG, Gs, Tm, St....

...Bayern still winning at the end of the season. :roll:
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby DRvad14 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:26 am

Bundesliga could offer investors ‘up to 25.1-per-cent stake’ in new global media and data unit

The German Football League (DFL) has sent a prospectus to investors outlining how it could share up to a 25.1-per-cent stake in a new unit marketing the Bundesliga’s international media and data rights.

The prospectus, which has been sent to 30 private equity firms and data specialists, reveals the DFL would seek to create two new subsidiaries – ‘MediaCo’ and ‘DigitalCo’ – to enable outward investment, Frankfurter Allgemeine reports. The DFL has confirmed the report is accurate.

The MediaCo unit would market the league’s foreign media rights and build a new OTT platform for the league, while a second DigitalCo would market the rights to the Bundesliga’s esports competitions. The existing ‘Bundesliga International’ subsidiary, which has been marketing the league’s global media rights since 2008, would be merged into the new MediaCo unit. SportBusiness understand the two new subsidiaries would be treated as a joint investment opportunity.

The league, which is being advised by the Nomura investment bank, will give interested parties around six weeks to express their interest before submitting non-binding indicative offers towards the end of April or early May.

The DFL and its advisors would then shortlist five proposals for more serious consideration before the 36 clubs in the top-tier Bundesliga and second-tier 2. Bundesliga would be called to vote on the proposals at an extraordinary session.

DFL managing director Christian Seifert told the German publication: “The construction essentially envisages a new company that will receive the license to exploit international media rights and global marketing rights for 25 years.

“This underlines the solid long-term investment approach, which offers both clubs and investors security when entering and also when exiting. Private equity firms are usually partners on a temporary basis, and under our model an exit is possible after a few years without any problems.”

SportBusiness understands the proposal does not currently have unanimous support from the clubs, with leading Bundesliga side Borussia Dortmund thought to be the strongest opponent.

Asked by Frankfurter Allgemeine how the clubs would react, Seifert said: “I cannot estimate that yet, we are talking about 36 small- and medium-sized companies with heterogeneous structures and individual strategies. Ultimately, it will be up to the bidders to convince the 36 Bundesliga and 2. Bundesliga clubs of the value and strategic relevance of their offers.”

The DFL is also at pains to stress that it had been talking to private equity houses before the Covid-19 pandemic, and the calls for outside investment were not completely related to the health crisis.

Seifert said: “There is a huge amount of interest in the market. The DFL was founded as a league organization, but is now also an international media group. We have been approached repeatedly by well-known private equity firms in recent years. In the course of the Corona crisis, the demand for investment opportunities in sports and media companies has increased again. It would be negligent for the clubs not to consider such options.”

Nomura previously advised the Bundesliga last April about the possibility of securing a bridging loan in the event that the league was unable to complete its season as a consequence of the Covid pandemic. However, games were eventually able to resume behind closed doors.

Reports that the league was considering private equity investment for its international arm first emerged last November. At the time Bloomberg reported Advent International and BC Partners were among suitors to have contacted the DFL.

Elsewhere in European football, Serie A clubs have accepted an offer from private equity companies including CVC for a 10-per-cent stake in a new entity that will manage its media-rights business. However, the deal has yet to be rubber-stamped and appears more doubtful following a better than expected domestic media rights tender.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Ben Gardner » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:20 pm

Whilst everybody's focus is on Leipzig vs Bayern for obvious reasons, the game between Dortmund and Frankfurt is just as important, but for other reasons you haven't experienced since I don't know when. Nothing less than a victory is acceptable for us, but Dortmund usually find ways to f**k things up. Never the less, it's Do or Die for Dortmund.

Two very interesting games incoming though.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby MUTU » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:21 pm

FFS BVB have lost again. I think their best shot at qualifying for next season's CL at this point is to win this edition's CL. 7 points behind 4th place Frankfurt with 7 matches left for them to play. This is terrible news for the Bundesliga.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:44 pm

MUTU wrote:FFS BVB have lost again. I think their best shot at qualifying for next season's CL at this point is to win this edition's CL. 7 points behind 4th place Frankfurt with 7 matches left for them to play. This is terrible news for the Bundesliga.
Really terrible in the short run, but hey... Dortmund have been on a declining path since 2015 or so, maybe they need a reboot, including a change in the upper level decision making, because they have taken some terrible terrible decisions lately.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Ben Gardner » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:15 pm

Another pure shit performance from Dortmund when they really needed to perform the opposite. Don't really know what has become of this team, but they surely knows how to make a fool of themselves. Something is rotten in Dortmund and I can smell it all the way to Sweden.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:19 pm

Next match day RB will lose again... vs Bremen
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:25 pm

Letting Tuchel go was the most idiotic thing ever. Imp their sqaud is one of the best in Europe.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Ben Gardner » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:39 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Letting Tuchel go was the most idiotic thing ever. Imp their sqaud is one of the best in Europe.

I'm starting to think letting Favre go was a mistake. Don't exactly know what mission Terzic was given at the time, keeping up with Bayern or secure CL? The first one backfired right away and the second is just about to happen.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:43 pm

Ben Gardner wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Letting Tuchel go was the most idiotic thing ever. Imp their sqaud is one of the best in Europe.

I'm starting to think letting Favre go was a mistake. Don't exactly know what mission Terzic was given at the time, keeping up with Bayern or secure CL? The first one backfired right away and the second is just about to happen.
I remember asking you what you think about it at the time.

I have never been a Favre fan (in fact I was totally against appointing him when many here wanted him to be our coach) but to me it never made sense to let him go. It always looked likely that he wasn’t the problem and in fact he was doing well before this season.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Ben Gardner » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:56 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
Ben Gardner wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Letting Tuchel go was the most idiotic thing ever. Imp their sqaud is one of the best in Europe.

I'm starting to think letting Favre go was a mistake. Don't exactly know what mission Terzic was given at the time, keeping up with Bayern or secure CL? The first one backfired right away and the second is just about to happen.
I remember asking you what you think about it at the time.

I have never been a Favre fan (in fact I was totally against appointing him when many here wanted him to be our coach) but to me it never made sense to let him go. It always looked likely that he wasn’t the problem and in fact he was doing well before this season.

I second that, this is what I answered you at the time

"I agree that under Favre's supervision we played some astonishing football from time to time but the lack of consistency goes just for him as for the team he commanded. Don't really see the point of sacking him, he was in the same position two years ago and last year when Dortmund put on some really poor performances, but in the end got some good results by ending runners up. Time will tell wether it was a good call by the management."
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:51 am

Dahoud is a very limited football player :x

I watched some parts of the game and only Haaland, Reus and Hummels were good


This is an absolute disaster for Bundesliga. I can see Eintracht qualifying for CL and then selling their best players and finishing bottom of their group.


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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby aterford » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:21 am

Ben Gardner wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Letting Tuchel go was the most idiotic thing ever. Imp their sqaud is one of the best in Europe.

I'm starting to think letting Favre go was a mistake. Don't exactly know what mission Terzic was given at the time, keeping up with Bayern or secure CL? The first one backfired right away and the second is just about to happen.


I'm not sure I would necessarily call it a "mistake" to let him go when they did (not like he was impressing, either) but for me the real mistake was bringing him back this season in the first place. I think the writing had been on the wall for a while now that Favre wasn't the answer for BVB going forward. So...it made sense to sack him, he was poor, but the real error was keeping him around until you HAD to sack him and then were left with zero fallback plan, really. Terzic is obviously not the solution either, but it never should have got to the point where he was in this spot, either...
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