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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Lukas » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:35 pm

That was the sort of result we usually pull out from nowhere when we’re doing well and marching towards the title. I’m not convinced we’d have turned it round from 0-2 at ht against BMG
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Lukas » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:38 pm

And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:43 pm

Lukas wrote:And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Lukas » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:48 pm

#12 wrote:
Lukas wrote:And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...

Yep I have huge concerns about next week and of course Leipzig eventually
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:50 pm

#12 wrote:
Lukas wrote:And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...
I understand why you’re feeling like this, and I definitely think it’s going to be a tight race this season, but Leipzig aren’t about to win every single game left either.

If one team were to win every game except the direct encounter, I would bet a month’s income that it would be us.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:59 pm

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#12 wrote:
Lukas wrote:And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...
I understand why you’re feeling like this, and I definitely think it’s going to be a tight race this season, but Leipzig aren’t about to win every single game left either.

If one team were to win every game except the direct encounter, I would bet a month’s income that it would be us.
It’s the more probable thing, I get it, and I know I‘ve been wrong about this in the past (and also been somewhat "unlucky" then) but it’s even more apparent now: our squad has gotten severely weaker and I‘ve said it already: in 2019, we won it, cause the others were shit, not because we were good! Now last year was something else - AFTER Flick took over - but this season, again, it‘s the shitty league that’s keeping us afloat, not our quality or performances...

That bet you wanna place... I think it’s necessary to win this... Leipzig will walk over us and I don’t see us beating Dortmund either... I expect them to score at least 3 next week...
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Achilles » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:26 pm

Well look who predicted a result still though far from easy.
I'm not sweating over the league. Firstly because Leipzig is not a super team. Secondly even if we lose the league it will do some good overall. We might get angry and invest something extra to build a better roster. The league itself needs a refresh even if that team is the plastic club of RBL. The only bad thing is that we can end up with zero trophies while the potential is for another double at least...
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Achilles » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:38 pm

#12 wrote:
Lukas wrote:And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...

They play Wolfsburg,Bayern, Dortmund and they are already -2 points behind us just relax a bit.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:39 pm

Achilles wrote:Well look who predicted a result still though far from easy.
I'm not sweating over the league. Firstly because Leipzig is not a super team. Secondly even if we lose the league it will do some good overall. We might get angry and invest something extra to build a better roster. The league itself needs a refresh even if that team is the plastic club of RBL. The only bad thing is that we can end up with zero trophies while the potential is for another double at least...
At least? How would that go...

I think it was easy... We had people here jerking over a second half at Frankfurt... Well guess what, they just did the same, over 90 minutes not 35, against a nominally better team (CL-participant) - AND they won!
That game looked more like 5-1 (or 5-0) than ours today and they were CLEARLY unlucky not to lead comfortably at HT already... They’re just a much more stable team atm - with a much better squad depth... They’re not super... But they don’t have to be if we drop points against teams who will be relegated...
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby #12 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:31 pm

Achilles wrote:
#12 wrote:
Lukas wrote:And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...

They play Wolfsburg,Bayern, Dortmund and they are already -2 points behind us just relax a bit.
We also play Gladbach again...
Relaxing is kinda hard... If we were to win on Saturday maybe...
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby aterford » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:56 pm

#12 wrote:
Achilles wrote:Well look who predicted a result still though far from easy.
I'm not sweating over the league. Firstly because Leipzig is not a super team. Secondly even if we lose the league it will do some good overall. We might get angry and invest something extra to build a better roster. The league itself needs a refresh even if that team is the plastic club of RBL. The only bad thing is that we can end up with zero trophies while the potential is for another double at least...
At least? How would that go...

I think it was easy... We had people here jerking over a second half at Frankfurt... Well guess what, they just did the same, over 90 minutes not 35, against a nominally better team (CL-participant) - AND they won!
That game looked more like 5-1 (or 5-0) than ours today and they were CLEARLY unlucky not to lead comfortably at HT already... They’re just a much more stable team atm - with a much better squad depth... They’re not super... But they don’t have to be if we drop points against teams who will be relegated...



Come on, be consistent. If Leipzig were wearing Bayern jerseys today, it would have been called a "lucky" win, never would have been called "easy" for them.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:32 pm

Imo there are two main differences between the game today and ours last week bs Frankfurt:
1) we were horrible in the first half and Frankfurt deserved their goals. Gladbach were mostly lucky. Imo Leipzig were better all game long.
2) Leipzig took their chances in the second.

The first doesn’t really matter in context. However badly the team played, the result at half time was the same. 2-0 down.
The second point is much more relevant. One could perhaps argue it is the mark of champions, and these two games might well end up being the deciders. But I think, all things considered, given how many goals we’ve been scoring this season, it was more the case of an off-day on that front last week.

I don’t think what Leipzig did in the second half today is much different from what we did last week. We are definitely capable of pulling off a turnaround performance like that; arguably we upped our game even more than they did but I don’t really consider that a positive because we should have been playing well from tbe beginning, like Leipzig did.

Ultimately the main difference between the two was how clinical both teams were. I’m not going to call it the end of the world, scoring is the least of our problems on 99% of days. I don’t see the gulf in quality in willpower or talent or whatever some seem to be seeing.

Keep in mind also that Frankfurt are better than Gladbach right now.
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby aterford » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:54 pm

And on top of that: It wouldn't have been the most shocking thing in the world to see Leipzig's go-ahead goal called off due to a foul. Would've been a bit harsh IMO, but at the same time you've seen them called like that before. And of course these sort of hypotheticals only go so far, but at the same time we can acknowledge that one 94th minute call/no call makes for a huge swing in the narrative around both teams. If the referee calls the foul and waves off the goal, today's narrative is entirely different. Ultimately the result is what counts, but this context DOES matter when we look at the big picture. If the case to be made for Leipzig is make-or-break on a foul decision in the dying minutes of the game, it's not the strongest case to begin with, IMO...
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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:01 am

#12 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:
#12 wrote:[quote="Lukas"]And it looks like we’ll go into the Dortmund game under pressure after dropping to 2nd
Again... We won’t even lead the table by the time we travel to Leipzig - and we‘ll lose there anyways...

I am DEAD seeious, I just do not see how we should be able to gather all the points needed against opposition BETTER than what we faced so far and did shitty against...
I understand why you’re feeling like this, and I definitely think it’s going to be a tight race this season, but Leipzig aren’t about to win every single game left either.

If one team were to win every game except the direct encounter, I would bet a month’s income that it would be us.
It’s the more probable thing, I get it, and I know I‘ve been wrong about this in the past (and also been somewhat "unlucky" then) but it’s even more apparent now: our squad has gotten severely weaker and I‘ve said it already: in 2019, we won it, cause the others were shit, not because we were good! Now last year was something else - AFTER Flick took over - but this season, again, it‘s the shitty league that’s keeping us afloat, not our quality or performances...

That bet you wanna place... I think it’s necessary to win this... Leipzig will walk over us and I don’t see us beating Dortmund either... I expect them to score at least 3 next week...[/quote]I don't see either winning against us. Bayern slips against shitty opposition out of boredom, but usually ups the game against the bigger teams.

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Re: 2020/21 Bundesliga Discussion Thread

Postby Fénix » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:22 am

PunkCapitalist wrote:I don't see either winning against us. Bayern slips against shitty opposition out of boredom, but usually ups the game against the bigger teams.

True. That what they did against Lazio. I couldn't even imagine we would put 4 in Rome and close the story in the 1st leg. Müller even admitted within the last 2 months how hard is sometimes for them to motivate against some teams in Germany due to constant domination with 8 straight titles in row.

Even under Ancelotti and Kovač guidance we were super motivated to beat BVB and Leipzig and put 3-5 goals behind their back in the middle of their backyard.

It's going to be the case this season, too. We are Bayern and we hungry of big matches almost every single weekend.

The race is going to be tight, that's for sure. But it's not going to be easy for Leipzig at all. Other teams will torn apart points against them.

Still, it's their 5th season in the Bundesliga and the idea of Dietrich Matešić was to win the title in the first 5 years. So far they haven't won and we are now in that season. :)
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