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Mario Gomez vs Miroslav Klose

Mario Gomez and Miroslav Klose have one thing in common and one thing that keeps them apart: both have been very prolific for the Deutsche Nationalmannschaft but while Klose is loved by (almost) everyone, a large number of people are Gomez doubters. In this article, the idea is to compare the two strikers’ goalscoring records for the national team in order to see who is the most prolific.

Due to the fact that Miroslav Klose is 7 years older than Mario Gomez, we will compare Gomez’s stats with Klose’s stats up to the point where Klose was as old as Mario Gomez is today (30th July 2012).

Miroslav Klose

Debuted with the German national team on 24th March 2001, aged 22 years 9 months 15 days.

Date Age Type Opponent Mins Goals
24/03/2001 22 years 9 months 15 days WC2002 Qualifier Albania 18 1
28/03/2001 22 years 9 months 19 days WC2002 Qualifier Greece 24 1
29/05/2001 22 years 11 months 20 days Friendly Slovakia 17 0
02/06/2001 22 years 11 months 24 days WC2002 Qualifier Finland 29 0
15/08/2001 23 years 2 months 6 days Friendly Hungary 26 0
01/09/2001 23 years 2 months 23 days WC2002 Qualifier England 24 0
06/10/2001 23 years 3 months 27 days WC2002 Qualifier Finland 15 0
13/02/2002 23 years 8 months 4 days Friendly Israel 72 3
17/04/2002 23 years 10 months 8 days Friendly Argentina 90 0
09/05/2002 23 years 11 months 0 days Friendly Kuwait 90 0
14/05/2002 23 years 11 months 5 days Friendly Wales 90 0
18/05/2002 23 years 11 months 9 days Friendly Austria 66 3
01/06/2002 23 years 11 months 23 days WC2002 Saudi Arabia 76 3
05/06/2002 23 years 11 months 27 days WC2002 Ireland 84 1
11/06/2002 24 years 0 months 2 days WC2002 Cameroon 83 1
15/06/2002 24 years 0 months 6 days WC2002 Paraguay 90 0
21/06/2002 24 years 0 months 12 days WC2002 USA 87 0
25/06/2002 24 years 0 months 16 days WC2002 South Korea 69 0
30/06/2002 24 years 0 months 21 days WC2002 Brazil 73 0
21/08/2002 24 years 2 months 12 days Friendly Bulgaria 78 0
07/09/2002 24 years 2 months 29 days EC2004 Qualifier Lithuania 90 0
11/10/2002 24 years 4 months 2 days Friendly Bosnia 77 0
16/10/2002 24 years 4 months 7 days EC2004 Qualifier Faroe Islands 90 1
20/11/2002 24 years 5 months 11 days Friendly Netherlands 45 0
12/02/2003 24 years 8 months 3 days Friendly Spain 83 0
29/03/2003 24 years 9 months 20 days EC2004 Qualifier Lithuania 90 0
30/04/2003 24 years 10 months 21 days Friendly Serbia 45 0
07/06/2003 24 years 11 months 29 days EC2004 Qualifier Scotland 73 0
11/06/2003 25 years 0 months 2 days EC2004 Qualifier Faroe Islands 26 1
20/08/2003 25 years 2 months 11 days Friendly Italy 31 0
06/09/2003 25 years 2 months 28 days EC2004 Qualifier Iceland 90 0
10/09/2003 25 years 3 months 1 days EC2004 Qualifier Scotland 15 0
11/10/2003 25 years 4 months 2 days EC2004 Qualifier Iceland 21 0
15/11/2003 25 years 5 months 6 days Friendly France 24 0
18/02/2004 25 years 8 months 9 days Friendly Croatia 79 1
27/05/2004 25 years 11 months 18 days Friendly Malta 45 0
02/06/2004 25 years 11 months 24 days Friendly Switzerland 61 0
06/06/2004 25 years 11 months 28 days Friendly Hungary 45 0
19/06/2004 26 years 0 months 10 days EC2004 Latvia 24 0
23/06/2004 26 years 0 months 14 days EC2004 Czech Republic 12 0
08/09/2004 26 years 2 months 30 days Friendly Brazil 21 0
09/10/2004 26 years 4 months 0 days Friendly Iran 55 0
17/11/2004 26 years 5 months 8 days Friendly Cameroon 29 2
16/12/2004 26 years 6 months 7 days Friendly Japan 90 2
19/12/2004 26 years 6 months 10 days Friendly South Korea 90 0
26/03/2005 26 years 9 months 17 days Friendly Slovakia 74 0

Capped 46 times by the time he was the same age that Gomez is now, he scored 20 goals in a total of 2626 minutes.

Mario Gomez

Mario Gomez made his debut with the Germany national team on 7th February 2007, aged 21 years 6 months 28 days. He had already scored 6 goals for the national team by the age that Klose made his debut.

Date Age Type Opponent Mins Goals
07/02/2007 21 years 6 months 28 days Friendly Switzerland 57 1
02/06/2007 21 years 10 months 23 days EC2008 Qualifier San Marino 32 2
06/06/2007 21 years 10 months 27 days EC2008 Qualifier Slovakia 26 0
13/10/2007 22 years 3 months 3 days EC2008 Qualifier Ireland 62 0
17/10/2007 22 years 3 months 7 days EC2008 Qualifier Czech Republic 26 0
17/11/2007 22 years 4 months 7 days EC2008 Qualifier Cyprus 72 0
21/11/2007 22 years 4 months 11 days EC2008 Qualifier Wales 70 0
06/02/2008 22 years 6 months 27 days Friendly Austria 32 1
26/03/2008 22 years 8 months 16 days Friendly Switzerland 74 2
31/05/2008 22 years 10 months 21 days Friendly Serbia 90 0
08/06/2008 22 years 10 months 29 days EC2008 Poland 75 0
12/06/2008 22 years 11 months 2 days EC2008 Croatia 65 0
16/06/2008 22 years 11 months 6 days EC2008 Austria 59 0
29/06/2008 22 years 11 months 19 days EC2008 Spain 12 0
20/08/2008 23 years 1 months 10 days Friendly Belgium 45 0
06/09/2008 23 years 1 months 27 days WC2010 Qualifier Liechtenstein 27 0
10/09/2008 23 years 2 months 0 days WC2010 Qualifier Finland 90 0
11/10/2008 23 years 3 months 1 days WC2010 Qualifier Russia 20 0
15/10/2008 23 years 3 months 5 days WC2010 Qualifier Wales 9 0
19/11/2008 23 years 4 months 9 days Friendly England 56 0
11/02/2009 23 years 7 months 1 days Friendly Norway 67 0
28/03/2009 23 years 8 months 18 days WC2010 Qualifier Liechtenstein 90 0
01/04/2009 23 years 8 months 22 days WC2010 Qualifier Wales 90 0
29/05/2009 23 years 10 months 19 days Friendly China 62 0
02/06/2009 23 years 10 months 23 days Friendly UAE 90 4
12/08/2009 24 years 1 months 2 days WC2010 Qualifier Azerbaijan 83 0
05/09/2009 24 years 1 months 26 days Friendly South Africa 45 1
09/09/2009 24 years 1 months 30 days WC2010 Qualifier Azerbaijan 45 0
10/10/2009 24 years 3 months 0 days WC2010 Qualifier Russia 2 0
14/10/2009 24 years 3 months 4 days WC2010 Qualifier Finland 76 0
18/11/2009 24 years 4 months 8 days Friendly Ivory Coast 21 0
03/03/2010 24 years 7 months 21 days Friendly Argentina 45 0
29/05/2010 24 years 10 months 19 days Friendly Hungary 29 1
03/06/2010 24 years 10 months 24 days Friendly Bosnia 11 0
13/06/2010 24 years 11 months 3 days WC2010 Australia 17 0
18/06/2010 24 years 11 months 8 days WC2010 Serbia 14 0
27/06/2010 24 years 11 months 17 days WC2010 England 19 0
07/07/2010 24 years 11 months 27 days WC2010 Spain 10 0
11/08/2010 25 years 1 months 1 days Friendly Denmark 90 1
12/10/2010 25 years 3 months 2 days EC2012 Qualifier Kazkhakstan 35 1
17/11/2010 25 years 4 months 7 days Friendly Sweden 90 0
26/03/2011 25 years 8 months 16 days EC2012 Qualifier Kazkhakstan 26 0
29/03/2011 25 years 8 months 19 days Friendly Australia 72 1
29/05/2011 25 years 10 months 19 days Friendly Uruguay 90 1
03/06/2011 25 years 10 months 24 days EC2012 Qualifier Austria 90 2
07/06/2011 25 years 10 months 28 days EC2012 Qualifier Azerbaijan 90 1
10/08/2011 26 years 1 months 0 days Friendly Brazil 45 0
07/10/2011 26 years 2 months 27 days EC2012 Qualifier Turkey 90 1
11/10/2011 26 years 3 months 1 days EC2012 Qualifier Belgium 76 1
11/11/2011 26 years 4 months 1 days Friendly Ukraine 82 0
29/02/2012 26 years 7 months 19 days Friendly France 45 0
31/05/2012 26 years 10 months 21 days Friendly Israel 66 1
09/06/2012 26 years 10 months 30 days EC2012 Portugal 79 1
13/06/2012 26 years 11 months 3 days EC2012 Netherlands 71 2
17/06/2012 26 years 11 months 7 days EC2012 Denmark 73 0
22/06/2012 26 years 11 months 12 days EC2012 Greece 11 0
28/06/2012 26 years 11 months 18 days EC2012 Italy 45 0

Capped 57 times, Gomez has already scored 25 goals for Germany in 3081 minutes played.

Conclusion

With all that’s been told and argued regarding the prolificness of Klose versus the one of Gomez, there’s only one thing left to do: compare their scoring rates. What might come as a surprise to some, Gomez has been more prolific than Klose when they were both the same age. If Gomez continues in the same upward path as Klose did, he should overtake him in the scoring charts. To note that Klose’s 25th international goal came on his 28th birthday, in World Cup 2006 against Costa Rica. Gomez (aged 26 years 11 months 20 days) already has 25. One may assume that, unless some very bad injury happens to Gomez, he is bound to score more international goals by the time he turns 28.

Miroslav Klose Mario Gomez
Debut age 22 years 9 months 15 days 21 years 6 months 28 days
Matches played 46 57
Minutes played 2626 3081
Goals scored 20 25
Goals per 90 minutes 0.69 0.73
1 goal scored per 131 minutes 123 minutes
Klose's acrobatic goal celebration

Klose's acrobatic goal celebration

So why is Klose so much more loved than Gomez? Perhaps it was his acrobatic goal celebrations or his charming character. Perhaps Gomez didn’t give such a good first impression: he was too young an inexperienced in his first international tournament to make an impact, and he made a lasting bad first impression, which he still carries around with him to this day. Or maybe it is for other reasons altogether. One thing is certain, though, Klose was not more prolific than Gomez when he was his age, and with the backing he received he kept on scoring and scoring, until he’s now 4 goals shy of Gerd Mueller’s record. Is it time to cut Gomez some slack and give him the same kind of backing that Klose received? I think it’s better late than never.

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  • American says:


    Solid Analysis of the Klose v Gomez argument. I fall greatly on the Gomez side and this article continues my frustration with folks that all n the other side. The logic involved isn’t complete.

  • FCBayernMunchen says:


    I’m a big fan of both but the fans, the coach and Klose himself need to realize that at his age, they can’t depend on him anymore. Klose has to make way now, not just for Gomez but possibly for others as well. He’s still good, but this team needs to look ahead to the future and not destroy itself by being too loyal to former stars. I am sure that even from a bench role Klose will have managed to break both Gerd Muller’s and Ronaldo’s record by the end of the world cup in Brazil.

  • American says:


    I am inclined to think I’d rather see Reus starting up front for Germany than Klose. He is aging and doesn’t have the stamina to keep up with more speedy defenders that will play WC such as Cowntrao, Marcelo, Alves, etc.

  • AvatarX says:


    I don’t know the exact minutes played, but Podolski with 101 caps in 27 years old and 44 goals, seems to have a similar rate with both those two…

  • Jorge says:


    One factor many weight in Klose’s favor is his record at World Cups, once he surpassed Klinsmann and tied Muller he a-kind-of became a legend but I do not forget that Klose had strong critics in Germany up to at about the age that Gomez has now. By then, it was claimed that his goalscoring record was only against weak opponents like Saudi Arabia, Japan or Cameroon while he was scorelss vs the likes of Brazil, Spain, England, etc. That changed in 2006 when he scored vs Argentina. To be frank, Gomez did not have a good scoring record versus big names either until this EURO (obviously he has not seen too many minutes vs them either) but he bagged 2 incredible goals vs The Netherlands.
    As I said in a post before, counterattacking football fits better Gomez style because his touch is too heavy for tight spaces, he is devastating with space to operate but struggles with quick touches in tight spaces which is the way Germany mainly played at EURO 2012.
    In my opinion one of the big mistakes by JLo was not playing more counterattacks, although I believe it should not be the only weapon it was very effective in 2010 and beyond and it suits both Gomez and Klose. Ironically, it was a 2010 Germany-like counterattack what Italy used for their 2nd goal: the nail in the coffin.

  • machkover says:


    one things is clear though ; German had some pride with Klose as a striker . if it depends only on Gomez to maintain this pride it will remain without any pride !!

    • MUTU says:


      Germany reached a final and two semifinals with Gomez in the three competitions he played in. They didn’t always do this well with Klose, who never won an international title anyway.

  • machkover says:


    will you check the statistics and see if Germany really reached that final and those semis thanks to Gomez’s goals ??

    • MUTU says:


      Considering that Germany reached the QFs only thanks to 4 goals, 3 of which were scored by Gomez and the other one assisted by Gomez, I have to say he most certainly did have an influence.

  • AvatarX says:


    Gomez didn’t score once in Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010, so telling that Germany reached a semi and a final where Gomez played (while Klose actually scored in those), its meaningless.

    • MUTU says:


      Well, neither did Klose in Euro 2004. And in the Euro 2004 qualifiers he only scored 2 goals, both against Faroe Islands.

  • AvatarX says:


    Also you can really compare goals scored in World Cup (some of them against Saudi Arabia, but some of them against Argentina or England) with goals scored in qualifiers or friendlies…