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FIFA Ballon d'Or 2014 (Neuer vs Ronaldo & Messi)

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Do you think Neuer stands a chance?

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No
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby runaway » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:19 pm

What were they writing the previous year with Ribery?

It's great to hear the Spanish media is riled up with Neuer. They can turn all their propaganda they want. Hate talk about Bayern, nothing new... :coffee:

On another note, Who is the genius that made the World XI an online voting? Can't FIFA make a fair and unbiased voting system in anything?

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby JANCKER » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:35 pm

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:39 pm


and this was his UCL baptism in 2008
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby Ottomeister13 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:21 pm

We have another funny man.. asshole coach of Montpellier.. It came done to something like this at a PC: ''If your son asks you in 30 years if Neuer really was that better compard to Messi and Ronaldo, then you have to try hard not to answer a dumb question like that''

''You cant compare a GK with a defender, midfielder or attacker. Its like you compare a karateka with a boxer, judoka and another fighting sporter''

''And how can you give someone the ballon d'or to someone who conceded four goals at home in the most important game of the season? Only Blatter can..''

Simple, you **** moron, by becoming WC. What a shithead, jealous ****. I am getting tired about all those silly comments from people who are not relevant and never will be, to have an opinion all of a sudden. So just because he is a GK.. he shouldnt have a chance, so in other words he is not part of the team either, because he is a GK then.. Dumb ****.. Not surprising your shit team is in 10th position and NEUER WON EVERYTHING.
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby runaway » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:50 pm

I hope his son doesn't ask if Messi and Ronaldo ever scored a hattrick against Neuer. :coffee:

They love to bring that semis to disprove Neuer. But Ronaldo and Messi's WC performance can't be part of the conversation.

Just curious, who are the players that has scored a hattrick against Neuer? Aguero who else?

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby RedQueen » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:09 pm

Hi, new member here, I've been lurking for some time and now I've decided to register, hope you don't mind if I chime in.
runaway wrote:Just curious, who are the players that has scored a hattrick against Neuer? Aguero who else?

AFAIK only Robert Lewandowski in the Cup final 2012. Messi, AFAIK, never scored even one goal against Neuer in all their encounters, not against Schalke, not against Bayern, not against the National Team (at least not in a competitive game, I don't know about friendlies). Which makes that Kürbis' statement quite silly. How by his own logic is he going to argue that Messsi is a better player than Neuer then?

About the Spanish press and Ronaldo fans. They're certainly fretting a lot given they are allegedly so convinced Neuer doesn't stand a chance. How is that vote supposed to be rigged if all the votes are to be published complete with the names of the voters?
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:12 pm

runaway wrote:I hope his son doesn't ask if Messi and Ronaldo ever scored a hattrick against Neuer. :coffee:

They love to bring that semis to disprove Neuer. But Ronaldo and Messi's WC performance can't be part of the conversation.

Just curious, who are the players that has scored a hattrick against Neuer? Aguero who else?

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby JANCKER » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:23 pm

Cannavaro won the Ballon d'LOL, Italy was the shittiest WC ever, they practically won the WC with 3 draws, all other were losses. A diving by Grosso and a penalty given in the last minutes saved their ass in the group stage.
How can he get any credit when they've been defending with 10 men the whole tournament...

Bayern didn't win in 2013 like Inter in 2010 or Chelsea in 2012, the next year our players didn't win in 2014 like Italy in 2006. We're showing that we're top of the world and we're here to stay, but still one of our players fails to get personal recognition.

This shows that Germany/Bayern have a long way before they become wanted in the world.

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby envagyokazapad » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:11 pm

The fact that Ronaldo won last year despite winning absolutely nothing, and being a flop in most of the really important games shows that no one on freakin earth is going to win any of these individual awards until Messi and Ronaldo are around (add in the fact that Messi was named the best player of the WC, even though he was clearly nothing special).

Ronaldo even won the CL this season. Neuer doesn't stand a chance whatsoever.
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby JANCKER » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:35 pm

The type of player who protests for a penalty after his team already scored. Do I have to say his name?

Messi or even Suarez to win this year's award makes sense as it made Penaldo winning it last year.
It's Ronaldo when they win, but when they lose he doesn't have to do anything with it, then it's Ancelotti or Portugal sucks, etc.

If your son asks you in 30 years about Ronaldo, you can always tell him about the real Ronaldo. :wink:

That's better than to start explain your son what does this salute mean?
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Why did he go down, dad? Did someone shot him in the face?

Strange, Ronaldo isn't complaining about FIFA anymore... Hmmm

This is a robbery... The only way for one of our players to win this award is to kidnap someone from FIFA, that's the only language they speak there.
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby runaway » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:05 pm

Welcome to the forum RedQueen. :D

So Lewa and Aguero. Interesting.

If only La Liga would change their first tie breaker to goal difference than head to head maybe more teams would care to not concede so many goals when they're losing to Barca and RM. But since losing 1-0 to these two giants is the same as losing 10-0, the minnow teams can let Messi and Ronaldo score how many they like.

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby Ottomeister13 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:21 pm

Well i could score 40 or 50 goals a season in an easy league like la liga aswell ;) Heck, Ronaldo wouldnt even be able to do this if he was still in the BPL and wouldnt stand a chance in the BL...
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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby JANCKER » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:31 pm

Cristiano Ronaldo Insults Bundesliga Supporters over Mario Gotze [source]


DFL CEO Christian Seifert: 'Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo would not be a superstar in Germany' [source]


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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby Bavarians » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:14 am

Giovanni Trapattoni favors Manuel Neuer for 2014 FIFA Ballon d'Or

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The legendary coach thinks the Bayern goalkeeper deserves it.

Another famous figure from the footballing world has come out in favor of Manuel Neuer winning the FIFA Ballon d'Or. This time, it's the legendary Italian manager Giovanni Trapattoni. He even compared Neuer to one of the game's greatest ever goalkeepers.

"Neuer, for a change. He's a stalwart goalkeeper, a bit like Dino Zoff," Trapattoni told La Stampa. "I love those players. He could also play as a striker. It would be something different if a goalkeeper would be elected FIFA World Player of the Year."

Trapattoni knows a thing or two about great goalkeepers having managed Dino Zoff, Gianluigi Buffon, and Oliver Kahn in his time. And, while his support of Neuer doesn't really mean anything in the overall scheme of things, it's good to see another of the greats of the game come out in favor of FC Bayern's number one.

It's still likely an uphill battle for Neuer to unseat Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo for the award, but all of the people coming out in favor of Neuer bringing that trophy back to Bayern Munich for the first time since Gerd Müller, Franz Beckenbauer, and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge won the award five times in the 1970s and 1980s.

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Re: Can Neuer win the Ballon d'Or ?

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:25 am

there he is good old Trap :) I started following FCB exactly during his reign at FCB
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