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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:49 pm

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bastos80 wrote:Good that we already do have 2 of those.
Ironically they were both sent off against Real Madrid.


You know it was underseved for both even more when you compare to what Casemiro did for 3 hours.

And thanks god we had Vidal this game. Can't imagine how Alonso would have been exposed without him.



How was any of that undeserved?
Martínez got his first yellow for recklessly running forward and then fouling after losing the ball, and the other one for a tactical foul against Ronaldo.
Vidal could've been sent off way earlier, the fact that Casemiro should've been sent off and the second yellow was bs doesn't change that.

So you're saying we only need that kind of player to make up for a 36 year old? Only strengthens my point to be honest. Don't need more of that type of player.

If you guys want to kick your way to the CL title, go on. Neither Barca, Real or us in 2013 needed that type of tactic.
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby MUTU » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:03 pm

bastos80 wrote:
Coman wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Good that we already do have 2 of those.
Ironically they were both sent off against Real Madrid.


You know it was underseved for both even more when you compare to what Casemiro did for 3 hours.

And thanks god we had Vidal this game. Can't imagine how Alonso would have been exposed without him.



How was any of that undeserved?
Martínez got his first yellow for recklessly running forward and then fouling after losing the ball, and the other one for a tactical foul against Ronaldo.
Vidal could've been sent off way earlier, the fact that Casemiro should've been sent off and the second yellow was bs doesn't change that.

So you're saying we only need that kind of player to make up for a 36 year old? Only strengthens my point to be honest. Don't need more of that type of player.

If you guys want to kick your way to the CL title, go on. Neither Barca, Real or us in 2013 needed that type of tactic.

It's true that Vidal fouled enough to get sent off in a standard match, and I was also vocally pleading to Ancelotti to sub him off, yet one needs to evaluate the fouls in the context of the match. The context of the match was that Casemiro had done far more fouls and was always closer to earning a red card than Vidal. In that context, one may be excused for fouling a little bit more due to the leniency that the referee was clearly displaying to other players on the pitch (specifically Casemiro). It's from this context that one feels Vidal's sending off was very harsh, not just by looking at some YouTube clip of just his highlights (not claiming that's what you did, just building my argument on my reasoning that in a highlights clip Vidal looks bad but in the whole context of the match he looks innocent).
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby #12 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:04 pm

We were kicking - with style though ;)
The occasional "Effe" is not unimportant - but you'll never win anything if you lack the style and ability... We do not have enough of that on offense...
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby prasun77 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:15 pm

Right..so now even from argentina ..what we are signing is a midfielder..
a "defensive midfielder" from argentina!
What you sign from argentina is "strikers"!
Its like buying ear pods from apple store..
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby Dusel » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:18 pm

prasun77 wrote:Right..so now even from argentina ..what we are signing is a midfielder..
a "defensive midfielder" from argentina!
What you sign from argentina is "strikers"!
Its like buying ear pods from apple store..


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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:31 pm

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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby prasun77 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:37 pm

have you tried ear pods from apple store?
They are refreshing and classy

but..
They are not what the "iStore" is supposed to be selling!
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby MUTU » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:56 am

prasun77 wrote:have you tried ear pods from apple store?
They are refreshing and classy

but..
They are not what the "iStore" is supposed to be selling!

So, what are you proposing? That if we buy an Italian it must only be a defender? If it's a Spaniard he should only be a midfielder? If he's a German he must only be a goalkeeper?

If anything, Paredes played as a defensive midfielder in two leagues that are considered physically tougher than the Bundesliga, so he should've learnt the destroying business.
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby prasun77 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:32 pm

Yes and No..point is if we are bringing someone from argentina then why not an attacker?There are many talented forwards in argentina why are we not after any of them?
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby bastos80 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:14 pm

prasun77 wrote:Yes and No..point is if we are bringing someone from argentina then why not an attacker?There are many talented forwards in argentina why are we not after any of them?



Why would nationality matter?
We should be looking for an attacker and a DM independently.
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby #12 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:35 pm

Just that we HAVE enough DMs at some point...
We still NEED attackers...
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby FCB general » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:18 pm

We're lost. God, when I recall how did our midfield look like just 3-4-5 years ago... :roll: #-o

With this guy, Rudy and Kimmich would be RBs.
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby bastos80 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

#12 wrote:Just that we HAVE enough DMs at some point...
We still NEED attackers...



Except we only have 1 defensive midfielder and that is Rudy.
Tolisso, Sanches, Vidal and Thiago are all better off further up and Martínez can't play the Alonso role.
Just a couple of weeks ago you were saying Ancelotti is wasting Thiago.
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby prasun77 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:39 pm

See my point is there can be 2 scenarios:
1)We are not going to go for South American players.
If yes then ok. Idiotic policy but ok.

2)We can buy South American players.
If yes ..then SA is abundant with high quality attackers.Why haven't we signed any one of them?
Barca are signing them day in day out..madrid too..benfica..porto..shahktar..Why the hell not us? Its ok costa flopped but paulo sergio didn't.elber didn't..why lose hope?
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Re: Leandro Paredes [Leandro Daniel Paredes]

Postby bastos80 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:42 pm

Can't remember anyone categorically exclude signing a player because of his nationality.
It makes sense not going for direct imports from crap leagues anymore and it also makes sense not overpaying for a 29 year old, so what's the problem?
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