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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby armbrust » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:54 pm

Those are the utter basics I was taught when I was a 13-14 year old kid. A top flight goalkeeper should do so much more.


I agree. Top GKs are expecteed to do more but without breaking these basic rules.
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby MUTU » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:52 am

Hamburger SV have reportedly held initial talks with Thomas Kraft as they are interested in taking him in as a replacement for 37 year old Frank Rost. Thomas Kraft's contract runs out at the end of this season and due to the Bosman ruling would be allowed to move to Hamburg for free.

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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby MUTU » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:29 am

... and before anyone comments on my last post, I have some interesting news, a comment from Kraft to Sport Bild:

"I do not rule out that I will stay with Bayern, even in the event that Neuer comes. As long as I am offered a perspective, I can not think of everything"

I didn't understand the last bit, I'm assuming he meant that everything is possible, but the Google translation is a bit weird.

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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby Element » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:45 am

Hamburg has Jaroslav Drobny who is even better than Rost
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby armbrust » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:51 am

Kraft can go after we get Neuer.

But who will be our 2nd GK then?
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby Element » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:30 pm

armbrust wrote:Kraft can go after we get Neuer.

But who will be our 2nd GK then?

Either Butt extends for a year

or We make Rouven Sattelmaier our 2nd GK
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby appudds » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:56 pm

Element wrote:Either Butt extends for a year

Butt announced his retirement
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby MoFattal » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:16 pm

appudds wrote:
Element wrote:Either Butt extends for a year

Butt announced his retirement


In an interview on Bayern's official website:

“No, the final decision has yet to be taken. The only thing we know for certain is that I’ll definitely stay at Bayern after I finish playing, when I’ll take over as head of the youth development centre. However, the exact point in time is still open.”

So it seems that he's gonna stay for one more year after all.

The full inteview: http://www.fcbayern.t-home.de/en/news/news/2011/28850.php?fcb_sid=b9586032d0211098f92ad97e70b2a49d
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby MUTU » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:24 pm

Element wrote:
armbrust wrote:Kraft can go after we get Neuer.

But who will be our 2nd GK then?

Either Butt extends for a year

or We make Rouven Sattelmaier our 2nd GK


As I wrote earlier, Kraft may well extend even if Neuer comes.

This means we'd have Neuer, Kraft and Sattelmaier. Butt would probably retire in this scenario.
If Neuer comes but Kraft still decides to leave (contrary to what he said), we'd only have Neuer and Sattelmaier, and I can imagine Butt extending his contract by 1 year in this scenario.
If Neuer (or another keeper) doesn't come, I expect both Kraft and Butt to extend their contracts.

Basically: Neuer+Kraft+Sattelmaier, Neuer+Butt+Sattelmaier or Kraft+Butt+Sattelmaier.
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby quaazi » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:41 pm

Butt can be called up Lehmann-style you know...

I kinda want Kraft to leave if we get Neuer. Kraft needs game time, and he won't get it in the same club as Neuer. Maybe loaning him out instead?
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby SilentStrike » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:44 pm

quaazi wrote:Butt can be called up Lehmann-style you know...

I kinda want Kraft to leave if we get Neuer. Kraft needs game time, and he won't get it in the same club as Neuer. Maybe loaning him out instead?

yeah i was thinking the same here. butt will just be our backup in case we get in a gK crisis.
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby vijay92 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:25 am

Hoeness literally ended a kraft bayern career in the press conference yesterday. butt is in goal against leverkusen. Kraft will surely not sign a contract extension. Space is made for Manuel Neuer
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby FCB general » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:31 am

vijay92 wrote:Hoeness literally ended a kraft bayern career in the press conference yesterday. butt is in goal against leverkusen. Kraft will surely not sign a contract extension. Space is made for Manuel Neuer

or for other GKs.(You forgot to put a full stop at the end of sentence). :wink:
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby imicus » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:43 pm

MUTU wrote:
Element wrote:
armbrust wrote:Kraft can go after we get Neuer.

But who will be our 2nd GK then?

Either Butt extends for a year

or We make Rouven Sattelmaier our 2nd GK


As I wrote earlier, Kraft may well extend even if Neuer comes.

This means we'd have Neuer, Kraft and Sattelmaier. Butt would probably retire in this scenario.
If Neuer comes but Kraft still decides to leave (contrary to what he said), we'd only have Neuer and Sattelmaier, and I can imagine Butt extending his contract by 1 year in this scenario.
If Neuer (or another keeper) doesn't come, I expect both Kraft and Butt to extend their contracts.

Basically: Neuer+Kraft+Sattelmaier, Neuer+Butt+Sattelmaier or Kraft+Butt+Sattelmaier.


When Neuer comes to bayern Kraft would comitt suicide if he decides to extend his contract, unless he is happy getting tha balls bag during the training days, and that is his professional aim. it is clear that if things go in a logical way Neuer will block the gate for ten years or so, no space to play, that is all, folks, :wink: So we need a second goalie, Butt style, veteran, low profile, to backup Neuer.
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Re: Thomas Kraft

Postby Mazen96 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:48 pm

imicus wrote:
When Neuer comes to bayern Kraft would comitt suicide if he decides to extend his contract, unless he is happy getting tha balls bag during the training days, and that is his professional aim. it is clear that if things go in a logical way Neuer will block the gate for ten years or so, no space to play, that is all, folks, :wink: So we need a second goalie, Butt style, veteran, low profile, to backup Neuer.


Timo Hildebrand can play that role pretty well. What happened to this guy anyways?
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