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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby MUTU » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:33 pm

JANCKER wrote:I think in Kurt's case, her parents discovered the pictures that she was keeping secret from them and then her parents reported him... That's what I understood. Kurt is only 20 so he'll normally talk to underage girls... :P

She was probably proud of them and boasted about them to a lot of friends. I mean, how many teenagers can claim to have been sent naked selfies by Bundesliga players?
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby JANCKER » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:56 pm

It could be that it was unsolicited, who knows... it was just a presumption. At least this isn't like Adam Johnson's case.
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby Firefox1234 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:57 pm

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Firefox1234 wrote:He's fortunate to get out with just a fine....

How so? Ribery AFAIK didn't even get a fine, and he had sex with an underage girl not simply show her a digital representation of his 'assets'. Multiple times.

I mean that if he didn't get caught this early it could have escalated into sexual misconduct down the line then he would be in deep shit....
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:00 pm

wasn't Kurt taken to Court ? :P
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:56 pm

JANCKER wrote:I think in Kurt's case, her parents discovered the pictures that she was keeping secret from them and then her parents reported him... That's what I understood. Kurt is only 20 so he'll normally talk to underage girls... :P I don't really know what age she is.

Exactly. Probably why he got away with a fine.
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby Roonzil » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:01 pm

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JANCKER wrote:I think in Kurt's case, her parents discovered the pictures that she was keeping secret from them and then her parents reported him... That's what I understood. Kurt is only 20 so he'll normally talk to underage girls... :P

She was probably proud of them and boasted about them to a lot of friends. I mean, how many teenagers can claim to have been sent naked selfies by Bundesliga players?


Please, don't do this, not without the full details of the case. It's one of the most toxic ways to look at sexual assault (she probably asked for it, she wanted it, she enjoyed it)....or did you forget Trump's remarks on how rich and famous men can just do whatever they please to women, bc they are rich and famous? Or Adam Johnson, who basically used his fame to pressure a girl into doing sexual acts with him...

Even though I believe being 20 and sending sexts to 17 year olds should not be as much frowned upon as say 34 year olds and 15 year olds. But we don't know the details of this case. So let's just leave it at he was wrong, got a fine, hope he learns and they're both ok.
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby PunkCapitalist » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:12 pm

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MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:I think in Kurt's case, her parents discovered the pictures that she was keeping secret from them and then her parents reported him... That's what I understood. Kurt is only 20 so he'll normally talk to underage girls... :P

She was probably proud of them and boasted about them to a lot of friends. I mean, how many teenagers can claim to have been sent naked selfies by Bundesliga players?


Please, don't do this, not without the full details of the case. It's one of the most toxic ways to look at sexual assault (she probably asked for it, she wanted it, she enjoyed it)....or did you forget Trump's remarks on how rich and famous men can just do whatever they please to women, bc they are rich and famous? Or Adam Johnson, who basically used his fame to pressure a girl into doing sexual acts with him...

Even though I believe being 20 and sending sexts to 17 year olds should not be as much frowned upon as say 34 year olds and 15 year olds. But we don't know the details of this case. So let's just leave it at he was wrong, got a fine, hope he learns and they're both ok.

The thing is these kind of cases have gotten really out of hand. Ive read of cases in the US in which 18 year olds have gotten into the sex offender registry list for sending nude selfies to their 17yo girlfriends. That ridiculous frankly. You're right in that the case's particular circumstances *could* be different, but overall this cases are really stupid.

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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby Roonzil » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:24 pm

Oh totally agree, in cases like these the law should not be taken as strict and should be interpreted case by case before lives are ruined. Esp when you have a sex offender register like in the US, which will change your life forever if you're on it.


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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:47 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
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JANCKER"]I think in Kurt's case, her parents discovered the pictures that she was keeping secret from them and then her parents reported him... That's what I understood. Kurt is only 20 so he'll normally talk to underage girls... :P

She was probably proud of them and boasted about them to a lot of friends. I mean, how many teenagers can claim to have been sent naked selfies by Bundesliga players?


Please, don't do this, not without the full details of the case. It's one of the most toxic ways to look at sexual assault (she probably asked for it, she wanted it, she enjoyed it)....or did you forget Trump's remarks on how rich and famous men can just do whatever they please to women, bc they are rich and famous? Or Adam Johnson, who basically used his fame to pressure a girl into doing sexual acts with him...

Even though I believe being 20 and sending sexts to 17 year olds should not be as much frowned upon as say 34 year olds and 15 year olds. But we don't know the details of this case. So let's just leave it at he was wrong, got a fine, hope he learns and they're both ok.

The thing is these kind of cases have gotten really out of hand. Ive read of cases in the US in which 18 year olds have gotten into the sex offender registry list for sending nude selfies to their 17yo girlfriends. That ridiculous frankly. You're right in that the case's particular circumstances *could* be different, but overall this cases are really stupid.

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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby SilentStrike » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:52 pm

Girls and women can be fully sexually developed by the time they are 17 or even earlier. The fact that older men are attracted to them is only natural. And 17 year old girls are also eager for sexual relations at that time. 20 year old having a sexual relationship with 17 year olds is only natural.

It's only the leftist or feminist media that tries to label this as sexual assault, or even when the girl fully consents, she was somehow pressured into it. Complete bollocks. I'm glad in my country the age of consent is lower than in most countries or else pretty much all men would be jailed.

15 year olds is tricky though. 15 and 30 of course is disgusting. But 15 and 18 year olds arent really that far apart when it comes to development. Men generally develop later and an 18 year old male could well be in the same stage of development as a 15 year old girl. But by law, it is statutory rape, which is of course ridiculous.

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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:55 pm

SilentStrike wrote:Girls and women can be fully sexually developed by the time they are 17 or even earlier. The fact that older men are attracted to them is only natural. And 17 year old girls are also eager for sexual relations at that time. 20 year old having a sexual relationship with 17 year olds is only natural.

It's only the leftist or feminist media that tries to label this as sexual assault, or even when the girl fully consents, she was somehow pressured into it. Complete bollocks. I'm glad in my country the age of consent is lower than in most countries or else pretty much all men would be jailed.

15 year olds is tricky though. 15 and 30 of course is disgusting. But 15 and 18 year olds arent really that far apart when it comes to development. Men generally develop later and an 18 year old male could well be in the same stage of development as a 15 year old girl. But by law, it is statutory rape, which is of course ridiculous.

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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:22 pm

ramsej84 wrote:We have that register here as well. It does ruin lives but one has to remember about the victims whose life was ruined too. Recently we had a case where a man was removed from it cause the allegation made by his daughter was false...

We are extremely off-topic but unfortunately the stigma probably lingers even though one is cleared. Like when someone is suspected of a crime and is then found innocent. People still treat them like criminals sometimes.

I am all for the register but as Roonzil said we need to be careful not to make rash decisions.
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby Firefox1234 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:49 pm

I sure love talking about sexual misconduct

I hear it enough on MSM so let's keep it specifically on Kurt's case....
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Re: Sinan Kurt

Postby MUTU » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:04 am

By the way, nobody said that the girl who was sent Kurt's umm... Package picture... Is actually 17. In fact they said her age is unknown. All we know is that she is younger than 18.
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Re: Sinan Kurt

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ramsej84 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
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MUTU"][quote="JANCKER"]I think in Kurt's case, her parents discovered the pictures that she was keeping secret from them and then her parents reported him... That's what I understood. Kurt is only 20 so he'll normally talk to underage girls... :P

She was probably proud of them and boasted about them to a lot of friends. I mean, how many teenagers can claim to have been sent naked selfies by Bundesliga players?


Please, don't do this, not without the full details of the case. It's one of the most toxic ways to look at sexual assault (she probably asked for it, she wanted it, she enjoyed it)....or did you forget Trump's remarks on how rich and famous men can just do whatever they please to women, bc they are rich and famous? Or Adam Johnson, who basically used his fame to pressure a girl into doing sexual acts with him...

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