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quaazi wrote:Well to be honest he did instigate the current German youth revolution.

Nope the current youth revolution is a result of the DFB forcing clubs to develop youth academies by law and therefore promoting homegrown academy talent for all the main Bundesliga and 2.Bundesliga clubs.

I have lurked for quite some time before writing on this topic. My post is probably going to be long, so please bear with me if you wish =)

First off, saying that Lahm is dumb or immature is like saying that the Earth is flat. Hence, I believe all is clear in this regard.

Second, the book is not about coaches, and it's definitely not a step-by-step manual that would help people to definitely become a top-level player. It is about what you have to deal with if this is what you really want. It's not a secret formula or something. The book does not say, "Do 'A', 'B', and 'C', and then you are in." It is rather an examination of self, i.e. feelings, etc. Obviously, you have to lead the reader through major events, but that does not mean the book is about those events. It really is about Lahm. As to the "controversial" passages, I'm just going to quote Lahm here, "One has to approach the reading as a gold seeker to find those passages." That says it all.
The claim that one should wait on writing a book until he/she wins an international title is just not relevant. Why? Simply because there are many top-level football players who haven't won a major title. That does not mean that they are not top-level players. Winning a title depends on a coach, on his staff, on other players, on other teams who compete alongside your team, and so on. "How one becomes a top-level football player today" means "what you deal with while trying to get there", and there are people who have gotten there already at 20 without an international title. Look at Thomas M. and his brother, and you'll see what I mean.
The claim that he shouldn't have written an autobiography at 27 is not completely relevant either. It is not an autobiography in the strict sense of the word. But even if one wishes to think about it in those terms, here is what he/she has to keep in mind. If what you want to do is to analyze what you've been through so far in order to see what you still want to achieve, there is no "right" age. You can do it at 12, if you are smart enough. You can do it at 60, too. You grow up fast in this business.

Third, this:

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Lahm was respectful enough to obey the coaches and do what they wanted from him when they were coaching him. They do not work with him anymore, and all he did was say things as they were.

That's why he's showing that he's a leader. He's not afraid to point out things as they really are. He showed this when LVG was coaching here too. LVG used to say that he occasionally had meetings with Lahm to discuss stuff. He gets involved if he doesn't like it, because he is the captain and he has to do what he believes is right for the team. Of course, the coach's word is still the highest of all, but nobody is perfect and Lahm is not wrong in trying to point out what he believes are flaws in someone's work. Perhaps the coach will say "Hey, you are right" and it will be better for everyone, but most sports figures have too big an ego to handle criticism like that.

Precisely. I'm just going to add to this that, for example, when he writes about Rudi, he also says (basically right away) that he doesn't know any national team of 2004 who would have prepared differently, better than the Germans. Those were other times, that's all. With regard to Klinsmann, he writes that, as soon as he took charge, "everything suddenly started to make sense." He writes about how LVG has influenced Bayern in a positive way.
And going back to the first two lines of the quote, that's exactly what it is. +1

With regard to Klinsmann and Rudi, I have also heard people say, "Why didn't he say it back then?" One has to keep in mind what status a person has in the team. In addition, wouldn't that have been worse (wrong)? I mean, I can imagine people going, "Oh my gosh! He is criticizing his coaches!" Think about it for a second. That would have disturbed the team. That would have meant breaking the code and whatnot.
As to LVG, the "why didn't he say it back then?" isn't relevant.

Fourth, those, who have already read the book, like it unless, of course, they belong to the category of haters who hate "just because" or "because it's Lahm who speaks". Some people are even disappointed in the book because there are no insights into the mechanisms of professional football (read: coaches, players, and so on.) Apart from that, they find it well-written, clear, and analytical. Even those people don't call it disrespectful. And I'm not even talking about the media who now calls the book boring because there are no scandals told. It is the book about what he's learned so far. It is, first and foremost, about him. And the media, now that the book has been published, finds that boring. Well, they just have to deal with it.
I've read a review of somebody who isn't even Lahm's fan but has read the book. Just a quote: "Lahm doesn’t reveal big scandals, he writes about his life and does it with his co-author quite well and entertaining – good to read. Especially for young footballers and, of course, all Lahm fans, the books should become an icon." (my translation)

Finally, the team is fine. What do they have to do with it? It's not about them. Not to mention the fact that they've known him for a long time, and they know him better than any of us here or on the outside.

AvatarX wrote:“It's basically a player's perspective that never has the coaching perspective,” said Klinsmann, who has called Orange County home since 1998. “He doesn't see the big picture, what actually the work of a coach means. In many different elements. ... As a player, there's no perfect coach to you. And as a coach, there's never a perfect, perfect player. And it's just normal.

Exactly. So, what the fuss? He never claimed it would be an all-around perspective. On the contrary, he emphasizes, including the book, that it is his perspective. Whether he is right or not, I don't know. I wasn't there. But that much is clear: that's how Lahm has experienced it. The experience was most likely different for other people. It varies.

As a closing remark, the fact that we all are discussing it, trying to figure out whether or not it was right, is already wonderful in itself. And perhaps, it means that the issue has been waiting to be discussed for a long time. Writing it as an active player is relevant. That's one of the reasons why it is great.
What once again "surprises" me is how fast, eagerly, people have jumped up on board of the "Hate" train. Without reading the book, without trying to think for themselves. That is sad.

Nice one!^^ +1

TeamSpirit wrote:With regard to Klinsmann and Rudi, I have also heard people say, "Why didn't he say it back then?" One has to keep in mind what status a person has in the team. In addition, wouldn't that have been worse (wrong)? I mean, I can imagine people going, "Oh my gosh! He is criticizing his coaches!" Think about it for a second. That would have disturbed the team. That would have meant breaking the code and whatnot.
As to LVG, the "why didn't he say it back then?" isn't relevant.

Regarding this, one has to not that under Klinsmann and Rudi, Lahm was much younger, probably less of a leader than he is now, and not yet captain either. Under LVG, as the captain of the team, he DID discuss with him certain issues which he did not agree with (something which maybe not many non-Bayern fans know because it wasn't hyped by the media), but he did it privately, and that shows his maturity. He know that he can't simply go out and trash-talk or criticize his current superiors. For one thing, it could affect his career (losing his captaincy, playing less, etc.) but also because it would create a very bad atmosphere at the club.

TeamSpirit wrote:I'm just going to add to this that, for example, when he writes about Rudi, he also says (basically right away) that he doesn't know any national team of 2004 who would have prepared differently, better than the Germans. Those were other times, that's all. With regard to Klinsmann, he writes that, as soon as he took charge, "everything suddenly started to make sense." He writes about how LVG has influenced Bayern in a positive way.

When you see this, you see that he once again he appreciates some of Voller's work, but they were a bit lost with him in charge. Klinsmann came here, and presented to them a philosophy, and so they could understand why they were doing what they were doing. It appears that Lahm believes that while Klinsmann could explain well what he was doing, he was unable to think up good tactics. This is his opinion. I personally still think that Klinsmann could have made a great coach for Bayern given time, but there is no knowing that for sure.

Talking about the quality and maturity of PHILIP LAHM is THE MOST MORONIC thing I have read.
The guy is the best right / left back in the world and if he continues to play like this, place in history awaits.

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