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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Tedesco » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:28 am

Well, this friendly backfired badly. I stand by Pep for trying to protect his players.

They say any publicity is good publicity. This will generate a lot. :P
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby quaazi » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:27 am

The friendly can go fvck itself, a fit Schweinsteiger is worth more than any commercial benefits that game would've given (and still will).
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby thephfactor » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:59 pm

bigdrop wrote:I believe that Pep did the right thing.

Tedesco wrote:I stand by Pep for trying to protect his players.

quaazi wrote:a fit Schweinsteiger is worth more than ...


You guys are acting as if Pep made a calculated decision with a defensible outcome. As if he thought to himself, "Well, I could shake the opposing coach's hand and fool the world into thinking I have a modicum of human decency for another few months, or I could not shake his hand and somehow that will result in my players not being injured or make the poor tackles not have happened."

The bottom line is that he reacted, and badly. There was no reason to take his ire out on the coach, that part was simply disgraceful and rude. In case you've forgotten, this was a friendly for Caleb Porter too. This isn't a squad he's with day in and day out like Pep, it's a showoff thing that's thrown together. Hell, they were still adding and dropping players from the squad a matter of days ago.There's no part of a thinking human being's brain that concludes Porter was telling his players to make hard, dangerous tackles in an All-Star friendly game, or that his coaching philosophy is to blame. That's ridiculous, Pep's behavior is a disgrace to Bayern and a big blow to Bayern's brand in the US. But that's not all. Pep's behavior was also very cruel. Porter looked up to Pep as a coach, and as a human being. Pep was Porter's idol, and he completely disregarded him.

Were the tackles bullshit? Of course, they were bullshit. But don't pretend that justifies Pep's outrageous behavior, that's delusional. Pep doesn't deserve your unthinking support.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Danada19 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:06 pm

There was also the very bad challenge on Shaqiri which could have easily injured him. That's when it first looked like Pep was getting mad. I don't know if it was just me but it seemed like Rode was getting beat on harder then any player out there the entire time he was on the field.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:08 pm

"Pep's outrageous behavior..."

That's what politeness looks like by Effenberg standards.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby runaway » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:24 pm

Good thing the hard fouls on players didn't cost anything and Schweinstiger is fine.

What would you want him to do? Guardiola should just stand there and let his players be mauled? Guardiola talked to the refs who didn't listen as well as the MLS coach. Who should Pep address his concerns? The MLS players themselves? Of course he's going to air his grievance to the one who controls the other team.

Not everyone can be a cool reserved person faced with the possiblity you just gambled your WC players to enter the field for the fans only for them to get injured.

It's not like both coaches would have tea after the game and talk about the match. Pep had that small time after the match to express his discontent.

There was a tweet in the match thread that both coaches have cleared the air in the tunnel. Too bad that's not made the news. Classless Pep pushes papers more.

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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby thephfactor » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:53 pm

runaway wrote:There was a tweet in the match thread that both coaches have cleared the air in the tunnel. Too bad that's not made the news. Classless Pep pushes papers more.

...because that somehow affects whether or not snubbing someone on national tv is classy or not.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby pyrasur » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:06 pm

Pep should have shaken his hand. But that's easier to say when you aren't the coach watching your players get hit. And when he addressed their "coach" several times who does nothing but look sorry and weak, why should pep be expected to treat him like another coach. At least it's just emotions now and everything is calmer and both Bayern and American soccer benefitted, but part of me still thinks screw this friendly, Bayern didn't need that. Most of the Americans put on a good show, but I feel embarrassed by the few Americans that spoiled it for the rest of us.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby quaazi » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:06 pm

thephfactor wrote:You guys are acting as if Pep made a calculated decision with a defensible outcome.

lol no I didn't. I think that the whole situation is ridiculous to begin with, so I don't care how Pep handles himself.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:15 pm

The whole US Bayern tour was not that 'friendly' from the opposition, full of awful tackles, we're lucky no one got injured. I think Bayern will think it twice in the future before picking such opponents for preseason friendlies.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby runaway » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:24 pm

thephfactor wrote:
runaway wrote:There was a tweet in the match thread that both coaches have cleared the air in the tunnel. Too bad that's not made the news. Classless Pep pushes papers more.

...because that somehow affects whether or not snubbing someone on national tv is classy or not.


Because the TV captured every second every minute of what happened in the sidelines for the whole game right? There's no audio so if you're a lip reader, please do enlighten us the words probably exchanged between both coaches. Everything has been down to interpretation of the tv viewers and making their own conclusions and judgements.

Of course it affects the situation. They cleared the misunderstanding after the game and since it's not broadcasted live on TV, it's not relevant? They should have taken a commemorative photo, posted it in every social media site for PR Damage control. Ain't that genuine and classy?

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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Domik » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:32 pm

Pep Guardiola: "Without a sequence of 15 previous passes, a good transition between defence and attack is impossible. Impossible."

How can people be happy with this coach? He's clearly delusional and will force his system onto the players no matter what.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Domik » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:34 pm

Lahm in DM and Martinez at CB. =D> Great work, Guardiola.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:42 pm

Guardiola will retire at Bayern, after coaching Bayern for 30 years. Don't like that? My advice, start to support another team...
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby bastos80 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:51 pm

If you want a counter attacking team go and support dortmund.
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