FCBayernMunchen wrote:Schweinsteiger: got old and declined
Javi: was playing (vs Chelsea for example) then got a long term injury and lost his place... But still featured regularly in defence when fit.
Gustavo: lost his place and left before Pep started.
Kroos: Pep wanted to keep him but the board wouldn't meet his demands.
How this is Pep's fault more than the board's is beyond me. He requested Thiago, probably Vidal too; easily our best two midfielders. Alonso was questionable but it's the board's decision that kept him here this season. Götze failed but that couldn't have been predicted and he requested Neymar anyway.
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aterford wrote:Even if it's true that Pep didn't want Vidal (I doubt that very much; perhaps had more of a say in the matter but I don't think Guardiola was against the transfer).
albanian7 wrote:The two acrobatic speedy wingers Coman & Costa pushed the team into quarterfinals with their plays and sprints: Costa assisted the 2-1. And finally there was Vidal, the aggressive general, who pushed the team forward until the end.
These cases were long stories, the easiest being Kimmich. Pep trusted Reschke when it came to the 21 year old. He was less euphoric for Vidal, but was outvoted by Reschke & Rummenigge, who keeps open channels with the Juventus leadership. The club observed many talented players from Europe and finally laid a list in front of Guardiola.
Guardiola agreed immediately to Douglas Costa's transfer, whom he had met several times in Champions League. There was also Coman to be borrowed - with a loan fee of 7 million in two years and then 21 millions for the final buying fee.
nm462272 wrote:-Question: Did you have to convince Pep of Vidal? Answer: At the end of the season Pep said Vidal is a fantastic player.
aterford wrote:our midfield is still better off right now.
JANCKER wrote:In 2012 I knew RM fans who peed their pants from the thought of Bayern and told me that Bayern was set to dominate for years in Europe, what happened? We pee our pants as soon as something Spanish is mentioned. Geta-(Oops, I think I just peed my pants)fe.
Thiagoalcantara wrote:JANCKER wrote:In 2012 I knew RM fans who peed their pants from the thought of Bayern and told me that Bayern was set to dominate for years in Europe, what happened? We pee our pants as soon as something Spanish is mentioned. Geta-(Oops, I think I just peed my pants)fe.
It's cause they had freakin Jose Mourinho as manager and the whole club was in disarray at REAL MADRID.
The year Bayern won the champs league, Real madrid lost to bayern in the semis, lost to atletico in the cup final, finished second to barcelona for the league. In addition, they had the whol Jose vs every SPAINARD on REal madrid, Jose vs Cristiano Ronaldo, etc...
THAT was a bad time for REAl madrid.
IF ROBBERY had the same form they did during the 2013 run with pep the next 3 years, Bayern would of probably won a Champs league during that span./
JANCKER wrote:aterford wrote:Even if it's true that Pep didn't want Vidal (I doubt that very much; perhaps had more of a say in the matter but I don't think Guardiola was against the transfer).
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/champi ... -1.2912338aterford wrote:our midfield is still better off right now.
Rauntšik wrote:Pep was an essential part of development for this club, both footballing wise and for international recognition and growth.
Ziklitschli wrote:Rauntšik wrote:Pep was an essential part of development for this club, both footballing wise and for international recognition and growth.
You mean, hiring a famous coach and getting trashed 5:0 is more international recognition than thrashing Barca mercilessly 7:0? The Spaniards were scared out of their minds of facing us and after 3 years od Pep and this year (with a lot of Pep's leftovers) we're close to becoming a running joke in Spain. Is that the recognition, because I hear it often but still fail to grasp the concept. Also, is Bayern München some Chinesse club that needs a fancy coach to be recognised? History and results speak for themselves.
Now, development footballing wise, another hard concept for me. Because, hey, Carlo, in his first season, with a bad lineup, weird subs, out of form Müller, Alonso straight from death bed, injured Lewy and 2 red cards, still managed to take the tie with Madrid to ET, silence the Bernabeu and put RM to the ropes for a good while. The result was 6:3, the real result 4:3 and the result 11 vs 11, 3:2. Now Pep, with younger players etc, we all know how it ended in his RM tie, I mean how bad is he? Were his abysmal, backwards tactics the supposed development?
Or is it how players slow down the attacks and start to play useless tiki taka, because of all the automations he drilled into them and Carlo refuses to get rid off?
Or his transfers? The decesive Thiago? The symbol of everything that's wrong with the team last few years, the living legend (of RM), Xavier Alonso?
Really can't see it and I'd rather say that he was the worst thing that could happen to us, his crap still haunting us.
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