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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Firefox1234 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:30 pm

Man oh man....some of you guys should be eating a full course meal of crow this Thanksgiving
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:41 pm

tflags wrote:
RedQueen wrote:I think it's a little unfair to suggest that Pep is the only one who developed a talent like Kimmich to the level of a German A-team player.


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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby pyrasur » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:34 pm

The goal is to do a physical fitness test while hungover :)
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:22 am

Dortmund players that flopped outside of Dortmund is pretty high. Seems like a ton of them are system players, moreso than great individual players.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:42 pm

"I would say that Bayern have never played better than under Pep," Rummenigge told Die Welt am Sonntag.

"We have always been successful, but rarely been described as beautiful.

"Under Pep, all of us suddenly raved. That's his legacy, I'd say." [source]
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Coman » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:21 pm

We played a most beautiful football under Jupp in 2012/13.

Like if "beautiful" means "pass, pass, possession, pass, pass".
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:24 pm

KHR started drinking early in the morning today. :P
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby rthebest » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:28 pm

Coman wrote:We played a most beautiful football under Jupp in 2012/13.

Like if "beautiful" means "pass, pass, possession, pass, pass".

Yes we played beautifull fast attacking football in 12/13. And a rubbish football in 11/12.
Sometimes people ignore that Pep uses possession both as offensive and defensive strategy.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:43 pm

It's a cultural difference I guess.

Enrique won the treble with barca, but no one in barcelona will ever say he is a good manager or barcelona play anywhere near the level Pep's barca played. ZIdane won Champs League, yet, his football is very hard on the eyes for el blancos.

In England, especially with Chelsea fans, they actually enjoyed Jose football, which I thought was horrible.

It's the same thing here too. So many fans slate Thiago here, and prefer Bastian-Martinez midfield instead, however, in Spain, that midfield for the big 2 would of never been accepted.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Achilles » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:02 pm

It's a fact that Thiago isn't half the player Schweinsteiger was, I can't change that(Thiago can), it's based on facts not taste or "cultural difference"

"Cultural difference" would be to compare Bastian-Martinez physical & robust midfield style with Kroos & Modric for example, both world class, both effective but different style, at the end of the day that variety and difference is what makes football clubs or coaches unique, it's their identity.

When I'm going to watch Inter for exampe I know what I "must" watch, rock solid defense, physical midfield supporting a lethal striker.
When Pep Guardiola is in charge of a club I know what I'm going to see, possession, high defense, intense pressing & systematic chaos offensively.

That thing with Thiago(the player) I mean the "love/hate" it was kind of funny in the past, now is a very delicate matter, the one side talks about Thiago like he is on par with Modric VS the other side that make him look worse than Joe Allen.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:09 pm

Thiagoalcantara wrote:however, in Spain, that midfield for the big 2 would of never been accepted.


That's why they were owned in 2012/13...
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Coman » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:10 pm

Bayern fans who don't accept Pep because he was the key of Bayern biggest european humilation against Real Madrid, it's understandable.

But how could Barça fans don't accept Javi - Schweinsteiger, the midfield duo who ate Xavi, Busquets and Iniesta and was the key of the Barcelona biggest european humiliation, 7-0 ? I don't get why.. they should just applause and admire this.

When Bayern get humiliate by Real Madrid, I just appreciate how good was Di Maria, Alonso, Modric midfielder.

And to compare Thiago with Schweinsteiger lol ... I understand Barcelona fan who rather Xavi to Schweinsteiger, no problem at all. But Thiago #-o #-o #-o
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby pyrasur » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:08 pm

I don't think the Thiago fans here act like he's the Greatest Midfielder of all time. Some of us just appreciate when a Bayern player does something a little special.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby rthebest » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:30 pm

To be honest you can't compare two player simply by their attributes, or position they play and ignore their contribution , and performances. So Thiago has long way to go as a Bayern player before we even consider comparing him with Schweinsteiger. Does this make him a bad player? No.
Comparing Xavi and Schweinsteiger doesn't make sense either because both player major role for their clubs and country but they come from as @Achilles put it different footballing culture.
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